Try it. Use clipless. Report. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Mike On A Bike <shaljia...@guilford.edu> wrote: > If the best you can do is not resist the upstroke while spinning on a > descent, how can you possibly pull up while climbing a hill? > > On Jul 24, 10:24 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> When I climb those steep hills, I am very aware of pulling up quite >> hard to gain extra torque, something I can't do as well with clips and >> straps. I can feel the bike accelerate when pulling hard. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > When I rode fixie for a long time I used the clipless system because I knew >> > my foot wasnt going to come off down a descent and stick my leg into an MKS >> > eggbeater. I always found that when climbing though clipless seemed like >> > they limited how much i could stand up and just hammer on the pedals. I >> > never thought upstroke was really more than hogwash, long before reading >> > about grant's stuff. I lifted weights when I was wrestling and woudl do an >> > exercise that looked alot like a back stroke on a bike and it made my legs >> > burn and I had little power, I just dont think it is one that utilizes the >> > big muscles in your legs the right way. Legs are made for pushing, not >> > really for pulling. >> >> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Bertin753 <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Actually, foot retention does help when grinding a fixed 70 -- 75" gear up >> >> a steep hill. You can't do it for long -- half a mile, say -- but it >> >> certainly helps. One reason I went back to clipless was that I kept >> >> pulling >> >> my feet out of the straps when climbing >> >> >> Patrick Moore >> >> iPhone >> >> >> On Jul 23, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> My favorite comment of all was >> >> >> "Mike In Bklyn from Brooklyn >> >> >> Boy there was a lot of misleading info in this segment. >> >> >> On clips and pulling up on the pedals-- anyone who tries to pedal a bike >> >> out of the saddle comes quickly to appreciate clips. And I don't know what >> >> kind of riding this quy has done, but he should try climbing a 9% grade >> >> hill >> >> and then tell me whether could do so without pulling up on pedals" Take >> >> that grant, i bet he is always just wishing he had those clipless pedals >> >> up >> >> Mt Diablo, since as another guy said the ones without clips ruin our >> >> knees. >> >> What a bunch of mouth breathers, this is why bikesnob has just been able >> >> to >> >> eviscerate the culture around bikes, it can just get so silly. And while >> >> it >> >> is a shame not everyone can afford a Rivendell that doesnt make them out >> >> of >> >> reach, I mean these people should think about how much money they piss >> >> away >> >> on cars and gas, you will make your money back pretty fast. >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> I'm in full support of not riding with a helmet if that's what you >> >>> choose, but stories from old guys who made it through their youths >> >>> without >> >>> them are easy to come by from the ones who actually made it, 'cause, ya >> >>> know, we made it! I crashed a goodly number of times on my old Stingrays >> >>> and >> >>> 10-speeds, and banged my head hard a few times. I'm lucky I got away with >> >>> it, and usually wear a helmet now. >> >> >>> Joe Bernard >> >>> Vallejo, CA. >> >> >>> On Monday, July 23, 2012 8:31:38 PM UTC-7, charlie wrote: >> >> >>>> Great job Grant..........in such a limited format.....don't let some of >> >>>> doz guyz get ya down. Controversy always gets attention. Its just too >> >>>> bad >> >>>> many still believe the common misconceptions you often speak of. I used >> >>>> to >> >>>> think many of things you speak about were necessary (clipless pedals, >> >>>> cycling specific clothing, helmets all that stuff) until I actually >> >>>> thought >> >>>> about it critically and remembered my youth and all the riding we did >> >>>> without any of that stuff. I actually did ride a bicycle like most of >> >>>> the >> >>>> rest of the world did and still does with.........no helmet, no special >> >>>> 'kit', no special shoes, bars actually higher than my saddle, wider >> >>>> tires >> >>>> and no emphasis on riding all bent over like a professional racer. Those >> >>>> were some of the best bicycling years of my life.....and I didn't die >> >>>> (thankfully) from not wearing a helmet even though I crashed more than >> >>>> once. >> >> >>>> On Monday, July 23, 2012 12:03:20 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: >> >> >>>>> Good discussion, comments on the bottom of the page prove what an >> >>>>> asshole place NYC is to live.... >> >> >>>>>http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/2012/jul/23/bicycling-101/?utm_source=fe... >> >> >>> -- >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vyCfIaWKJXwJ. >> >> >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>>http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- >> "When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville." >> >> Flannery O'Connor >> >> ------------------------- >> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA >> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, >> ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html >> ------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >
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