This explains my question to Ted earlier. FWIW, in response to the poster who decried his mtb conversion experience, I converted a nice old top-of-line Diamond Back Axis Team into a ss all rounder with 60 mm Big Apples, fenders with air and a ~63" gear. Felt and handled wonderfully, but of course, in no way a Rivendell. (160 mm Q btw with a custom Phil **145 mm** bb assembly! TA Cyclotourist single.)
For me, the single most important qualities of the Rivs I've owned are their impecable fit, feel and handling -- tho' I have reservations about the Sam Hill. Everything else is relatively incidental. On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 7:15 PM, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think one of the cool things about the QB and Simple One is the 120mm rear > spacing combined with the relatively huge tire clearance, which AFAIK is > pretty unique. You can run a fairly narrow tread crank setup with a 107mm > BB and have get a decent chainline, and yet are able to fit tires up to 45s > on the QB, or even 50s(?) with the Simple One. You also got the > Rivendell geometry, lugs, rack and fenderability, build quality, etc. All > this is on top of those awesome 2 inch long angled dropouts. I shift my > QB now and then between roads and trails, and it comes in handy with for > example 40/16, 40/19, 32/19 and 32/22 available. It's a shame they were > forced to discontinue them, I wish they had been more of a hit. > > > > On Sunday, April 8, 2012 8:27:37 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: >> >> Well, in theory, one could have a Surly Cross Check set up for single >> speed, and still end up ordering a SimpleOne. In part due to longer >> chainstays, slightly lower bottom bracket, kewl green color and being the >> last of the completely different Rivendell models. But that of course would >> just be in theory.<g> >> >> As a bike, the Cross Check is an excellent bike with a 130mm wide single >> speed hub. And I can convert mine to a 1x8or9 in about a half hour. >> >> Eric Platt >> St. Paul, MN >> >> >> On Sunday, April 8, 2012 3:25:42 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery >> wrote: >>> >>> Obviously, not everybody will want a single-speed conversion on a >>> non-dedicated SS bike. My point was more to explain, in part, why maybe the >>> SO/QB wasn't a better seller because of frames like the CC that, in >>> function, do the same thing, for less dough. >>> >>> Another factor that I think relevant to lagging sales: my exhaustive >>> demographic research suggests that RBW's target market is 58-year-old >>> upper-middle income types who own multiple bikes (including, perhaps, a >>> "vintage" frame that can be converted). Single-speed popularity tends to be >>> driven, I dare say, by relative youngsters who have only one bike that they >>> ride and lock up everywhere. It's not practical or fashionable in this crowd >>> to have a nice/expensive/new bike. Far more street cred is attached to >>> machines lovingly assembled from dumpster frames and parts. > > > On Sunday, April 8, 2012 8:27:37 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: >> >> Well, in theory, one could have a Surly Cross Check set up for single >> speed, and still end up ordering a SimpleOne. In part due to longer >> chainstays, slightly lower bottom bracket, kewl green color and being the >> last of the completely different Rivendell models. But that of course would >> just be in theory.<g> >> >> As a bike, the Cross Check is an excellent bike with a 130mm wide single >> speed hub. And I can convert mine to a 1x8or9 in about a half hour. >> >> Eric Platt >> St. Paul, MN >> >> >> On Sunday, April 8, 2012 3:25:42 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery >> wrote: >>> >>> Obviously, not everybody will want a single-speed conversion on a >>> non-dedicated SS bike. My point was more to explain, in part, why maybe the >>> SO/QB wasn't a better seller because of frames like the CC that, in >>> function, do the same thing, for less dough. >>> >>> Another factor that I think relevant to lagging sales: my exhaustive >>> demographic research suggests that RBW's target market is 58-year-old >>> upper-middle income types who own multiple bikes (including, perhaps, a >>> "vintage" frame that can be converted). Single-speed popularity tends to be >>> driven, I dare say, by relative youngsters who have only one bike that they >>> ride and lock up everywhere. It's not practical or fashionable in this crowd >>> to have a nice/expensive/new bike. 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