Joe,

Good to know.  No plans to get one right now, but if I'm relieved to learn 
that if I am separated from the Rom by some misfortune or *force majeure *that 
there is a worthy replacement.

D.G.

On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:38:04 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The Homer/Romulus comparison is accurate. I've owned both, and they felt 
> practically identical.
>  
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
>
> On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:51:18 PM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote:
>
>> I own one of the original green Sams, 56.  I'm very close to you in 
>> height and build.  5'10", PBH 87.  I run Mavic A719s with Jack Brown Blue 
>> tires.  This bike is a wonderful commuter, set up with Noodles and a small 
>> front rack and large rear.  I have done two centuries on it.  I also have a 
>> Romulus.  The difference between the two bikes is not nuanced and the Rom 
>> is my definite go-to bike when I'm just on a ride and don't need to carry 
>> more than will fit in a small saddlebag (Carradice Barley).  
>>
>> Interestingly, when the Sam first came out Rivendell compared it to the 
>> Homer and suggested they were essentially the same, function-wise. 
>>  Elsewhere Rivendell claimed the Homer was essentially the same as a 
>> Rambouillet (an upscale Romulus), ride-wise, with the only difference 
>> between the two being the Homer's ability to run wider tires.  My 
>> experience with the Romulus and the Sam is that there is a lot more space 
>> between the two than you would be led to believe by their promotional 
>> material.  Now, I haven't ridden a Homer, but if its biases lean towards 
>> the Ram/Rom end of the spectrum, that might be THE ONE.
>>
>> The Sam is a wonderful bike, comfortable, steady, and true.  I just 
>> wouldn't call it fastish, and if you have a true touring bike I think 
>> you'll find it very similar to what you already have.
>>
>> D.G.
>>  
>>
>> On Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:13:21 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam 
>>> Hillborne's.  They look like really wonderful bikes.  Strong, versatile, 
>>> attractive are words that come to mind when I think about this bike.  These 
>>> are qualities that I find attractive.  However, I also like to go fastish.  
>>> Can I do this with a Sam as well?
>>>
>>> I'm pushing 45 years old.  A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast 
>>> bike built for me.  That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do.  
>>> I also have a Trek 520 Touring bike.  This bike, obviously, is built for 
>>> touring.  Its not very fast, nor very lively.  In short, my Trek isn't much 
>>> fun to ride.  I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes -- 
>>> one that will be able to carry a few bags and ride on stone dust bike paths 
>>> (such as the Erie Canal path), but one that will not feel sluggish to ride 
>>> (like my Trek).
>>>
>>> Most of the time, when I see photos of Sams, the bikes seem to be set up 
>>> to be workhorses -- carrying a collection of bags and racks.  I want to be 
>>> able to do this with a bike (thus the attraction to the bike in the first 
>>> place).  However, I would like to use noodle bars and go on fast-ish club 
>>> and recreational rides as well.  In fact, the vast majority of rides will 
>>> be  20 - 30 mile "out for fun and exercise" rides.  Is the Sam well suited 
>>> to this as well, or will it likely feel more like my Trek 520?  Most likely 
>>> I would set up a Sam with Noodle bars and tires such as Roly-Poly or Jack 
>>> Browns.
>>>
>>> I'm also considering having a custom built randonneur bike -- one that 
>>> will be able to carry some load but also feel quick and lively to ride.  
>>> However, if the Sam will meet my needs, it certainly would be a less 
>>> expensive alternative.  I don't think that my body has any proportions that 
>>> would make me difficult to fit (5ft, 11 inches tall, PBH 87.5, arm length 
>>> 35 inches) so I don't think that I *need* to go custom (though it sure 
>>> is fun to do so!).
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on whether a Sam would be a good choice would be 
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>

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