Sean,

I just turned 45 and commute on a 56cm Sam pretty much every day.

Commute is 15 miles RT, mostly flat in semi-urban traffic. I am 5'11"
and 165-170 lbs.

With Noodles, 32 mm Supremes and a large saddlebag I average about
18-20 mph on the longer flat sections of my commute, sometimes more or
less depending on wind and how long a day it has been. I typically run
60/80 psi front/rear, full fenders and a cheap/heavy rear rack.

I never had a "go fast" bike to compare with, but I am faster on the
Sam than I was on the Gary Fischer MTB it replaced, and most of the
commuters I see. Guys speeding along on road bike leave me in the dust
most of the time.

Jay




On Mar 27, 8:51 am, charlie <cl_v...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'm in that same frame of mind and height etc. oddly.....I own a fully
> decked out Surly Trucker and a Rivendell SimpleOne plus an old Raleigh
> that I can rob parts from for a "Sam Hill" making it my go faster
> geared bicycle. I enjoy the versatility of the Trucker but I  thought
> of selling it toward the Atlantis or the "Hunk" since I am 257 right
> now but think the "Sam" unloaded might be okay ( I think...what say ye
> Grant?)  I like lugged steel frames and probably won't buy another
> bicycle in my lifetime. So many choices......
>
> On Mar 25, 4:13 pm, SeanMac <seanm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam
> > Hillborne's.  They look like really wonderful bikes.  Strong, versatile,
> > attractive are words that come to mind when I think about this bike.  These
> > are qualities that I find attractive.  However, I also like to go fastish.
> > Can I do this with a Sam as well?
>
> > I'm pushing 45 years old.  A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast bike
> > built for me.  That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do.  I
> > also have a Trek 520 Touring bike.  This bike, obviously, is built for
> > touring.  Its not very fast, nor very lively.  In short, my Trek isn't much
> > fun to ride.  I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes --
> > one that will be able to carry a few bags and ride on stone dust bike paths
> > (such as the Erie Canal path), but one that will not feel sluggish to ride
> > (like my Trek).
>
> > Most of the time, when I see photos of Sams, the bikes seem to be set up to
> > be workhorses -- carrying a collection of bags and racks.  I want to be
> > able to do this with a bike (thus the attraction to the bike in the first
> > place).  However, I would like to use noodle bars and go on fast-ish club
> > and recreational rides as well.  In fact, the vast majority of rides will
> > be  20 - 30 mile "out for fun and exercise" rides.  Is the Sam well suited
> > to this as well, or will it likely feel more like my Trek 520?  Most likely
> > I would set up a Sam with Noodle bars and tires such as Roly-Poly or Jack
> > Browns.
>
> > I'm also considering having a custom built randonneur bike -- one that will
> > be able to carry some load but also feel quick and lively to ride.
> > However, if the Sam will meet my needs, it certainly would be a less
> > expensive alternative.  I don't think that my body has any proportions that
> > would make me difficult to fit (5ft, 11 inches tall, PBH 87.5, arm length
> > 35 inches) so I don't think that I *need* to go custom (though it sure is
> > fun to do so!).
>
> > Any thoughts on whether a Sam would be a good choice would be appreciated.
>
> > Sean

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