Hi Mike: I have almost that exact bike on order right now. It's a 64cm Sam, with the lugged seatpost, and rather than the Dirt Drop, they now carry an extra long Nitto "Talllux" stem. My SH is 89cm, and my current road bike is a 66 cm 1971 Schwinn Super Sport, which gets me to 88cm with the seat post maxed out. The bars are about 2cm below where I want them, and the Riv folks told me that this bike will allow me to get them where I want them. Keven has been working with me on it, so he should have good answers to your questions. I'm really looking forward to the delivery, will let you know how it fits when I get it.
Jim On Oct 25, 7:38 pm, Mike On A Bike <shaljia...@guilford.edu> wrote: > Jim, > > Thanks for the informative reply on Sam-sizing. The Trek and the > Quickbeam I ride are both 64cm, but I feel I should go up to the max > with a Sam, being that my saddle height is 85cm, which puts me in the > 65-67cm standard frame size on Rivendell's chart. I have about 16cm of > seatpost exposed on my 64's and I needed the Nitto lugged seatpost to > get the right reach, with a DirtDrop stem maxed out for bar height. > > So, I would LOVE for a 60cm Taiwanese Sam to fit me well, but I am > concerned about undersizing given those issues. That being said, if I > understand your theory right, and a 60cm Sam would effectively fit > like a 66cm standard frame, I'd be all about it. Also, what is your > saddle height? I'd be interested to know, because maybe with the parts > I've already used to adapt a maybe-too-small 64 frame, the 60cm Sam > would work with those adjustments. > > I emailed Keven today to begin to get my head around all of these > issues, and I'm sure I'll be well taken care of by Rivendell. > > On Oct 25, 8:31 pm, James Warren <jimcwar...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > What size was your Trek and what size non-sloping TT bike do you ride? I > > think the largest those Treks came in was my size, 64 cm. > > > But sizing is different on the Sam. My Trek touring and Rambouillet size is > > 64 cm. However, the 60 cm Sam fits me just right. This is because the 6 > > degrees of TT upslope compared to 2 degrees of the Ram effectively adds 4 > > cm of height to the headtube. When the TT is around 60 cm long, every > > degree of extra TT upslope angle adds 1 cm to the vertical position of the > > head lug. That's the theory of it, and in practice, it works for me. I have > > a 64 Ram, a 64 Atlantis, and a 60 Sam, and they all fit about the same. > > > So if the 64 Trek fit you well, maybe a 60 cm Taiwanese Sam is your size. > > When the Sams originally came out, this different "expanded" method of > > sizing was meant to fit people up to about my height (6'4") and only using > > 4 model sizes to do it with 60 cm being the largest. (It has since grown to > > 5 sizes, adding in the 64 cm to accomodate the really tall people. A 64 > > Bombadil or Sam should be like a 68 Atlantis.) > > > But ask someone at Rivendell. > > > -Jim W. > > > -----Original Message----- > > >From: Mike S <mikeshalj...@gmail.com> > > >Sent: Oct 25, 2011 3:12 PM > > >To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> > > >Subject: [RBW] Busted Resurrectio Lug/WTB: 64cm Sam or other Riv frame > > > >Damn y'all, busted the headtube lug on my restored 1986ish Trek 520 > > >today. Picture of the carnage available here:http://imgur.com/FbafN > > > >I noticed the fork felt really shaky when cornering for a few days, > > >maybe a week, and when it felt unsafely, 'bout-to-blow shaky after a > > >short ride today, I checked it out to notice a crack running all > > >around the headtube lug. It managed to make it home the 3 miles I > > >needed to get home, but sadly, my reclamation project and it's $300 > > >powdercoat are headed for the scrapyard. > > > >Given the exuberant faith we all have in lugged steel, I thought this > > >bike would surely last me a decade and many thousands of miles, hence > > >the steep powdercoat investment. Unfortunately, I am now down a frame > > >that has all kinds of fancy Rivvish parts attached to it. I have a > > >Quickbeam as my other ride, but I am now looking to upgrade to a > > >Rivendell road frame. > > > >I feel foolish for not just saving up for a new Sam in the first > > >place, and you can tell I was pining for one by the copycat orange > > >powdercoat. Alas, I am looking to get (ideally) a used 64cm Sam to > > >replace this, but I'm also interested in any tall Atlantis or Rambo or > > >Redwood or other stout-enough-for-touring Rivendell frames that might > > >be out there. I'm sure the Waterford 64 that RBW sells is sweet, but > > >the $450 markup over Taiwanese is a little rich for my blood. > > > >SO, I would love to hear about any tall-person Rivendell frames that > > >might be out there for sale. Sorry to abuse any illusions that lugged > > >steel is indestructible, too! > > > >-- > > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > >"RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >For more options, visit this group > > >athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
