OK, I at least tentatively withdraw my accusation; peace. But I've heard truly kneejerk cyclist reactions of the sort I accused and, having seen OTOH truly stupid if not criminal cycling behavior, and having gotten earfuls from outraged motorists who'd like to lump me into the same categories, it really angers me when cyclists make a priori assumptions of cyclists' innocence and motorists' guilt. Again, I've seen enough of both sides to have reasons for my attitude.
Tho' I am not *always* right in every instance. On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:16 PM, erik jensen <bicyclen...@gmail.com> wrote: > hardly kneejerk my friend. > > 1: known to all bicycle bloggers etc > 2: 2000 isn't going to do anything but pay for a single run of fliers-it's > his annual budget > 3: I studied in CPH and worked with their transport department. > > relax. > > Erik > > On Wednesday, September 14, 2011, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Evidence for your three assertions? >> >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:58 AM, erik jensen <bicyclen...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> 1. > NYT knows such an article will generate quite a lot of buzz in the >> cycling >>> community, garnering them page hits and ad revenue (etc etc etc). >>> >> 2. The guy is a hack volunteer, >> >> 3. there is no problem in >>> copenhagen with the bicycle in any way not to be expected of the dominant >>> mode anywhere else (cars here), and >> >> 1. the NYT is successfully trolling both >>> the cyclist community and the bike lane haters of US metropolitan areas. >>> >> I am the first to defend my rights to bicycle on the roads against >> agressive motorists, but a knee-jerk reaction to criticism of cyclists >> both angers and saddens me. >>> >>> erik >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 8:37 AM, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Rather than stir up an argument here- and since this thread began with >>>> recommended reading- I would just like to recommend a couple of books >>>> that >>>> would answer your question, and perhaps add some perspective to the >>>> whole >>>> idea of mounting a camera on the dashboard of an _automobile_ to >>>> illustrate >>>> the 'pinch' that pedestrians are feeling from bicycles. >>>> >>>> "Stop Signs: Cars and Capitalism", by Yves Engler and Bianca Mugyenyi, >>>> >>>> And >>>> >>>> "Collapse", by Jared Diamond, which might fairly be viewed as the sequel >>>> to "Guns, Germs, and Steel", and which will both fascinate and scare the >>>> shit out of you, if you have a pulse. >>>> >>>> >>>> -Matt >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8Z_mO2WEsicJ. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> oakland, ca >>> bikenoir.blogspot.com >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Patrick Moore >> Albuquerque, NM >> For professional resumes, contact >> Patrick Moore, ACRW >> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > oakland, ca > bikenoir.blogspot.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
