It's a parts bike that I'm using to try things out on when I get a wild
hair.  I've actually been planning on selling/donating it for a while, as
it's a bit stiff. I've always wanted to replace it with a steel frame -
perhaps a Hunqa or Bomba.

I really liked the drops and had no real handicap in using them off road -
the brake hoods were like the old bar-ends I used to have on my flat bar.  I
did a lot of bouncing around on rocks, and never lost grip, and the brakes
were fine from the hoods as far as power went.

The bar-end shifting was not ideal, but really only because shifting
bar-ends on mtb trails is a bit slow for the rapid changes you can need.  I
wound up realizing that for the most part, I only needed a low gear, as when
I was going downhill, it was technical enough I could gain great speed by
coasting until I got to another steep "up".  Could probably do most of the
trail on a single speed - maybe a 32x21.  When I was too low, I put too much
torque into the back wheel, and could spin it on the wood ramps.

I guess the thing is that the setup actually worked quite well, and I really
went into it expecting a major fail due to wrong equipment.

Brian

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:18 PM, René Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Brian,
>
> That's the first time I see a hardtail with front suspension and drop bars!
> The BAs look good too. Glad to know that you like them on the dirt. May I
> ask why you have your bike configured like that?
>
> René
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Brian Hanson <stone...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm actually surprised how good the Big Apples are in the dirt.  I'm in
>> Whistler, BC this weekend, and took my old MTB up some blue trail single
>> track with mud, rocks, roots, and even a few twisting bridge ramps, and only
>> had one slight front wheel slip in in a gravelly switchback.  They were
>> solid and I stayed quite a ways out front of my knobby shod friend on the
>> ascents and descents.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5996770108/in/photostream
>>
>> Brian
>> Seattle
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:12 PM, erik jensen <bicyclen...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> patrick,
>>>
>>> the hunqapillar can be light and nimble. the second top tube feels
>>> natural to me anymore, and folks often comment on how light my bike is (and
>>> it's a 62). i notice the stiffness when i'm out of the saddle pulling on my
>>> bullmoose hbars, relative to my atlantis in similar conditions. for a beefy
>>> steel frame, it ain't bad.
>>>
>>> what i like most is having a bike that handles like my other rivs, but is
>>> set up for offroad riding. i'm using 29x2.1" knobbies and having a blast.
>>> look at some of my photos, and you'll see that with 29" tires you end up
>>> with not too long of a wheelbase--an inch or so of clearance between the
>>> seatstay and the tire. if i get into a flow and let off my brakes on
>>> descents, i can carve into corners just as easily as with my old karate
>>> monkey--but the front end handles more like a road machine which is
>>> something i appreciate--feels more responsive if a bit dulled with a
>>> slightly longer wheelbase (hope that makes sense). i had to go to knobbies,
>>> as big apples slid too much in the loose stuff at speed--i know you like
>>> BAs, maybe that'll help you decide.
>>>
>>> descending straighter lines, well, that's pretty damn magical--the riv
>>> stability surprising translates well onto pretty gnarly downhill lines.
>>>
>>> i'm using light weight components, but nothing crazy (still got steel
>>> hbars, for instance). i love my bike, and feel like i'm riding the 29"
>>> equivalent of an early mtb. it's a lot of fun.
>>>
>>> photos: http://www.flickr.com/groups/hunqapillar/ (i'm user
>>> cosmiccountry)
>>> more generally: http://bikenoir.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> erik
>>>
>>> "klunking is dusty in the summer, and muddy in the winter"
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 6:20 AM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please keep us informed of your off road ride experiences. I am still
>>>> tempted by a Hunqapillar to build up as a ss off road bike, to
>>>> complement the Fargo, but I want something that feels lighter and
>>>> nimbler (the Fargo is lovely but it is heavy at 33 lb with the fat
>>>> wheelset).
>>>>
>>>> I am rather put off by the extra diagonal, but that may be overweighed
>>>> by the trademark Rivendell ride quality, so I am particularly
>>>> interested in how the H feels in cornering and acceleration.
>>>>
>>>> Or I may just get a ti or -- gawd 'elp us -- crabon fibre frame.
>>>>
>>>> Why the so-high bars? Not criticizing, just curious. I find that I
>>>> need a certain torso angle and forward reach, otherwise I feel as if I
>>>> can't get any power. I'm 56 so I'm no spring chicken, either.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:32 PM, René Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I spent today afternoon building up the Hunqapillar and fine tuning
>>>> its fit.
>>>> > Pictures of the initial build are
>>>> > here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/72157627319515196/
>>>> > I put 40mm Marathon Extremes as I have a set of 2.25 Nobby Nics on
>>>> order.
>>>> > They ride extremely nice on the pavement; can't really tell them apart
>>>> from
>>>> > the 50mm Supremes.
>>>> > Setup is as follows:
>>>> > - 58cm Hunqapillar frame
>>>> > - Mavic A719, 36 spoked, XT hubs wheelset built by Rich
>>>> > - 12/36 9 speed cassette
>>>> > - DuraAce 9 speed down tube shifters to try them out and make it easy
>>>> to
>>>> > play with the cockpit to fine tune it.
>>>> > - 200mm Bullmoose bars with Shimano brake levers and Specialized XC
>>>> grips
>>>> > that I'm going to try to wrap with tape and shellac to see what
>>>> happens...
>>>> > - Polished Paul front Neo-Retro and rear Canti brakes
>>>> > - Black Berthoud Touring saddle
>>>> > - Front Nitto Mini Rack
>>>> > - XT Low-normal rear derailer
>>>> > - Microshift front derailer (only option at RBW)
>>>> > - Phil BB
>>>> > - Sugino XD2 crankset 24-34-46, 175mm
>>>> > - Shimano A530 pedals
>>>> > - Nitto S83 26.8 seatpost
>>>> > - Tange headset
>>>> > Initial comments:
>>>> > The bike feels just great riding near my house. I feel a bit stretched
>>>> out
>>>> > on the bars but as I've fine tuned the saddle angle everything seems
>>>> to be
>>>> > getting better; I'll have to try it on longer and rougher rides and
>>>> may even
>>>> > decide to try the shorter 150mm Bullmoose bars. I've been surprised by
>>>> how
>>>> > great the bars feel. I tried the bike at first with the Nitto Touring
>>>> bars
>>>> > but it felt just like my Atlantis (great but I wanted to try something
>>>> > different). I don't think the Touring (Butterfly) bars are very good
>>>> to go
>>>> > mountain biking with, and after playing with them for a while in the
>>>> normal
>>>> > and rotated forward 180 degrees just to see how that felt, I settled
>>>> for the
>>>> > Bullmoose which I believe are going to stay on it for a very long
>>>> time, at
>>>> > least while I keep it as a mountain bike. The frame feels
>>>> significantly less
>>>> > flexy than the Atlantis when wiggling the bars, which was to be
>>>> expected. I
>>>> > tried to ride it no hands to see if it would shimmy like the Atlantis,
>>>> but
>>>> > there was no sign. I know, different tires, no rear rack and no load,
>>>> but
>>>> > it's a great initial impression.
>>>> > I'll try it on longer rides and commute on it to see how it behaves
>>>> with the
>>>> > Nitto Big Rear Rack and the panniers. It might end up being my
>>>> S240/touring
>>>> > bike (when I'm finally able to start touring...). It might be too
>>>> redundant
>>>> > to have both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar unless the Hunqa stays
>>>> > configured as a mountain/adventure bike and the Atlantis remains as my
>>>> > commuter and full fendered touring bike. We'll see, but I have to say
>>>> I'm
>>>> > very happy with my bike stable right now.
>>>> > I may also try the Extremes on the Atlantis to see if the shimmy
>>>> changes in
>>>> > any way, the 50mm Supremes or Big Apples on the Hunqa, etc.
>>>> > I hope everyone is having a great weekend so far,
>>>> > René
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