I don't think a Riv and/or any other bike are mutually exclusive.

I love my Protovelo because its a Riv through-and-through in frame
design and parts selection. Its a country bike in the best sense, and
my touring and commuting rig, too. It rides like a Cadillac - stable
and big.  It begs me to enjoy the scenery. Grant designs incredibly
stable bicycles.  And safe ones.  Its worth noting that my Protovelo
is normal high-trail Riv design, but felt like it was on rails with
all the weight up front.  Go figure.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/5960089616/in/photostream

I could ride the Protovelo on a randonee, and did.  But I prefer my
Ebisu randonneuse, which is built specifically for speed over
distance.  And why not a custom travel bike?  Spread the love.  Enjoy
the differences.  Reading some of the discussions over at Rawland... I
wonder why you'd want one bike to be absolutely everything?  Many
Rivendells end up doing that because they're designed so well and
doesn't pander to please everyone and their fetishes.

If you choose your custom builder carefully, it can be a great
experience.  So is visiting Walnut Creek.

Esteban
in 75-degrees-and-breezy San Diego, Calif.

On Jul 22, 3:33 pm, jim g <yoj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seth Vidal wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:19 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > > Seth, you could get a custom fork made for a lot less to check out the low
> > > trail thing.
>
> > > Could be a fun experiment!
>
> > From where? By Whom? I'm completely made of ears if someone has a 
> > suggestion.
>
> Tom Matchak is your guy -- he's built low-trail forks for Rams
> before...e.g.
>
> http://tommatchakcycles.blogspot.com/search/label/forks
>
> -Jim G

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