52 years young here, and for me drops are the only comfortable long-
distance option.  I do have and like the Noodles, but I find that the
modern 'compact' or 'short-n-shallow' shaped bars have some
advantages.  The short drop makes the drop position easier to reach
without the raising tops so high that standing to climb feels
ungainly.  The short reach seems to me more appropriate when using
modern brake levers.  Long reach bars were designed for non-aero brake
levers.  Modern brake levers (be they brifters or Tektro or SRAM aero
levers) allow a hand position that's a couple of cm further forward
than did non-aero or even early aero levers.  The shorter reach of the
compact bars compensates for that extra reach.

I use a 3T Ergosum bar on my go-fast (with Campy brifters) and find
its very comfortable whether on the hoods, the ramps, the hooks or the
drops.  Unfortunately it's only available in black and 31.8.  Ritchie
now makes a bar called the Classic Curve that looks similar, same
drop, a bit less reach, still 31.8 but polished silver.  It should
look OK with a silver VO stem and a threadless adapter.

I have another bike with a Salsa Woodchipper off-road drop bar.  It's
very short reach, very short drop, very wide and very flared in the
drops.  It looks a bit awkward and makes parking the bike harder, but
once rolling I find it's pretty comfortable.

the Noodles are on my Riv, but with a shorter stem than I used to
ride.  Even with the tops at saddle height the drops feel low and the
hoods far away.  I'm tempted to try the Classic Curve on that bike.
I'm already using a threadless stem and adapter so the swap would be
easy.  And the threadless + adapter combo is actually lighter than the
Technomic Deluxe it replaced.

Bill

I really recommend you try a compact or short-n-shallow bar before you
write off drops.  Grinding into a headwind on North Roads just isn't a
lot of fun.

On Jun 6, 8:55 am, canali <jwcoll...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> just wondering if it's just me and i need to take my time adding the
> mileage and being consistent  and patient (and getting back into
> shape)
>
> OR do alot of us as we get older no longer find being so bent down as
> comfortable...thinking of swapping out drops on atlantis for jeff
> jones h loop bars or the north road bars.

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