Yes, I've read and used the Rivendell fit method. That is what I
started with.

I started out with "normal athletic shoes and platforms" but was
having some problems so I switched to clipless. I'm quite happy with
this setup.

On May 22, 1:59 am, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hmmmm.......I assume you have read the Rivendell fit method. Fitting
> ones self to the bicycle is not rocket science in fact its hardly
> science at all. Just measure your pubic bone to floor height in bare
> feet about the width you pedal at and adjust your saddle using Grants
> method. For instance, I have a PBH measurement of 86.6 cm near as I
> can tell. I put my saddle level at 76cm and ride with platform pedals
> more toward the middle of my feet while wearing my normal sport shoes.
> I don't use clip in pedals and you might consider changing yours along
> with the "cycling shoes" to normal athletic shoes and platforms.  I
> set my bar height/distance to allow my back angle to be approximately
> 45-50 degrees with my most used grip ( the hoods).  I am not
> particularly flexible in the hamstrings and have a slight bend in the
> knee at the bottom of the pedal stroke when the cranks are lined  up
> with the seat tube. If I wear thinner or thicker soled shoes I will
> sometimes change my saddle height but don't mess with the bar height.
> My riding usually starts with 8-10 miles 2-4 times per week and
> progresses to a maximum of 30-60 miles at the peak of the riding
> season. Most rides are under 25 miles which works out to about 1.5
> hours of riding. Most of my aches and pains are due to trying too much
> too soon or just plain riding too much. Saddle/crotch comfort is a big
> problem unless I take care of my clothing choices (no thick seams but
> instead breathable fabrics that don't bunch up). With a wide enough
> platform pedal I rarely to never get foot discomfort. I wear classic
> leather gloves (Rivendell) and use one layer of cloth tape. Nothing
> fancy, just sensible and no uber high mileage to start or even later.
> I have a self imposed limit of 60 miles maximum in one day.  More than
> four hours of any exercise seems pointless to me and doesn't really
> contribute to good health IMHO. Racing or ultra long distance cycling
> seems unhealthy. That's my two cents.
>
> On May 22, 12:11 am, Zaelia <caddic...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Hi Matt: Thanks for your sympathy and information. With my recent
> > "professional" bike fitting experience I'd have to say that I'm pretty
> > skeptical of the whole thing too, now.  The reason I went to one in
> > the first place was because I had been playing around with the setup
> > of my bike (riding and making adjustments as I went) and was still
> > having issues. I thought going to someone who does this for a living
> > would be helpful. I guess I can look on the bright side and say that
> > it has been helpful. I've learned quite a bit, and I'm more determined
> > to get over my fear of f*cking things up and trying things myself.
> > That said, I'm going to be cautious. Only make one change at a time,
> > and make small, incremental changes. Otherwise I might be forced to go
> > back to a professional again, and I don't think I could go through
> > that process again.
>
> > On May 21, 6:56 am, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Zaelia, sorry to hear about your troubles with getting the right bike
> > > fit.
>
> > > That being said, please read the remainder of this message
> > > understanding that it is rather biased :)   I am extremely skeptical
> > > of "professional" bike fitting.
>
> > > I think you're better off just getting the right leg extension (seat-
> > > height), and then playing around with bar and saddle fore/aft postion
> > > yourself until you're comfortable.    The most important 'fitting'
> > > session you can have is to ride a bike(!) carrying a 6mm wrench, and
> > > adjust as necessary.   In fact, always carry that wrench, because even
> > > after years of riding, you may decide you want your saddle 1cm forward
> > > or backward or your bars higher/lower.
>
> > > Stem length isn't something you can adjust easily without having
> > > multiple stems (or an adjustable one), so best thing you can do is
> > > leave your handlebars untaped until you have that settled.    Of
> > > course, as soon as you want to try different handlebars, your
> > > preferred stem length goes out the window and you have to start over
> > > again.
>
> > > For saddle height, the best advise I've seen is, roughly:    sit on
> > > seat, fully extend leg, heel over pedal, should just barely touch.
> > > Or, measure 'PBH' rivendell-style, i.e. pulling up as hard as
> > > possible, then subtract 10cm, set seat-height there.    Ride bike,
> > > adjust as necessary (5mm hex wrench, or whatever size your seat collar
> > > bolt).
>
> > > Finally, keep in mind that bodies/minds change over time, so things
> > > like desired saddle height and reach change over time for a given
> > > individual.    It is possible that changes will be more rapid and
> > > pronounced if you are just getting into riding again after a long
> > > break.    Just take your time and ease into it, is the best advise I
> > > can give.    Start with short rides, but do them regularly.     In my
> > > humble opinion, doing 'big' rides before you have your fit/comfort
> > > dialed-in is going to skew your understanding of your own fit/comfort
> > > needs, and lead you down the wrong solution paths.
>
> > > -Matt

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