Matt, that is exactly what I did with my Sam Hilborne. I got the seat right 
(height) then carried a wrench with me and adjusted the handlebar height. Then, 
seat fore and aft and finally rechecked the seat height. It took a few days of 
tweeking but the ride is very nice now and I at 60 wake up eacvh morning with a 
few aches and pains to start with. Don't need any extras while out looking at 
the beautiful women,.. ahem, I mean scenery! :^)

best,

JimP

> Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 06:56:22 -0700
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Handlebar setup
> From: matthiasbe...@gmail.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> 
> Zaelia, sorry to hear about your troubles with getting the right bike
> fit.
> 
> That being said, please read the remainder of this message
> understanding that it is rather biased :)   I am extremely skeptical
> of "professional" bike fitting.
> 
> I think you're better off just getting the right leg extension (seat-
> height), and then playing around with bar and saddle fore/aft postion
> yourself until you're comfortable.    The most important 'fitting'
> session you can have is to ride a bike(!) carrying a 6mm wrench, and
> adjust as necessary.   In fact, always carry that wrench, because even
> after years of riding, you may decide you want your saddle 1cm forward
> or backward or your bars higher/lower.
> 
> Stem length isn't something you can adjust easily without having
> multiple stems (or an adjustable one), so best thing you can do is
> leave your handlebars untaped until you have that settled.    Of
> course, as soon as you want to try different handlebars, your
> preferred stem length goes out the window and you have to start over
> again.
> 
> For saddle height, the best advise I've seen is, roughly:    sit on
> seat, fully extend leg, heel over pedal, should just barely touch.
> Or, measure 'PBH' rivendell-style, i.e. pulling up as hard as
> possible, then subtract 10cm, set seat-height there.    Ride bike,
> adjust as necessary (5mm hex wrench, or whatever size your seat collar
> bolt).
> 
> 
> Finally, keep in mind that bodies/minds change over time, so things
> like desired saddle height and reach change over time for a given
> individual.    It is possible that changes will be more rapid and
> pronounced if you are just getting into riding again after a long
> break.    Just take your time and ease into it, is the best advise I
> can give.    Start with short rides, but do them regularly.     In my
> humble opinion, doing 'big' rides before you have your fit/comfort
> dialed-in is going to skew your understanding of your own fit/comfort
> needs, and lead you down the wrong solution paths.
> 
> 
> -Matt
> 
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