I forgot to include these: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5573667399477615730
versus https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5597420339650159730 and perhaps a golden mean https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/HerseComplete051811?authkey=Gv1sRgCN3SqfugksuC1QE#5609160993638820482 My point in posting these is not to recommend such positions as to show that, with the right saddle setup -- for the saddles on all three bikes are more or less identically set up with relationship to the bb and pedals -- you can get comfortable -- or, at least I can get comfortable -- with bars of hugely different heights and widths (46 Noodles on Fargo, 38-9 Belleris on Herse, 42 cm 185s on Riv). FWIW. On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Zaelia <caddic...@gmail.com> wrote: > Over the past week I have been consciously paying attention to my body > and reminding myself to relax. Thanks to those on this list who made > that suggestion. I do believe this has helped. I was doing this, but I > don't think I was really doing it well. I was focusing on some parts > of my body but not focusing on others. > > I have also come to accept the fact that my general fitness, > flexibility and strength, or lack thereof, are likely contributing > factors. I will be looking into this in more detail. > > A week ago, I returned to the first fitter to see about the final > pieces of my fit. Again, his suggestion was a longer stem and/or a > handlebar with a longer reach and medium to shallow drop because I was > bunched up up top. Without telling the whole story, he also raised my > handlebar height (due to my handlebars too easily being put out of > alignment). This put everything out of whack and I was back to having > pain almost everywhere. I think I'm done with that fitter. > > Today, I went to a new LBS and had a new fitting. They reversed > everything the previous fitter had done! He had raised my saddle, they > lowered it (by 1/2 to 1 inch). They said my cleats were both too far > forward on my shoes and were uneven (set up by previous fitter), and > they lowered my handlebars. Riding the indoor trainer during the fit, > I immediately felt some soreness in my knees, weight on my hands and > arms, and tingling in my toes (I had only ever felt this after 3-5 > hours of riding in the saddle, not from 5 minutes of stationary > pedalling). For the soreness in my knees and the weight on my hands, > they talked about the body's memory and how it may take time to > adjust. I feel a little apprehensive, since it felt like I was back to > where I was before the first fitting, but I'll ride with this setup > and make assessments and adjustments as I go. For the tingling in the > toes it was suggested I get better shoes. Admittedly, the shoes I was > wearing were ill-fitting and not very stiff, so I'll see how the new > shoes fare, but they did say that it's possible I may still feel this > tingling with the new shoes. Maybe it's time to see a podiatrist? > > Interestingly, they disagreed with the previous fitter about my stem/ > handlebar setup. They said I should not be getting a longer stem/bars > with longer reach but should keep my stem (or its relative length) and > get bars with a shallower reach. I was flummoxed. Such differing > results. They said I was in no way bunched up up top, but that > everything looked really good. The were completely unconcerned about > the drops. > > So, I feel like I'm just going in circles, and I feel deflated and > frustrated and ready to give up. I have some big rides coming up, and > I was hoping to have the bike in good shape long before that. That's > why I started the fitting back in the fall. But this is where I find > myself, so we'll see what happens. > > Thanks for reading and for letting me know your experiences and > thoughts. > > Hope you have a great weekend, riding your bike?, wherever you are. > Zaelia > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
