On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:16 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > Nice commuter under 25 lb equipped but not laden. Mine is > > probably under 23 lb with rack but no bag. > > How does this work? First of all, why are you weighing a commuting > bike without bags, when every single time you commute on it, you will > use bags? It seems to me, to make meaningful comparisons, we should > weigh our bikes as ridden. That is, a meaningful weight of a commuter > bike is the weight of the bike with everything you normally have on > your commuter bike when you take out the things you take out at work > or when you get home (your laptop, any clothes you change into at > work, your lunch, and so forth). > Sure, but I am not always meaningful. Seriously, this commuter is often ridden sans bags, so ... Add the pair of bags -- small Ortliebs -- and you are probably talking about another 3 1/2 lbs. Load -- anyone's guess, of course. The real point is that there is a noticeable difference between this bike and the Motobecane which is, similarly weighed, at least 5 lb heavier. "Commuter" is misleading since I really don't commute any more; this is the fun bike I ride when I want to, say, stop at the PO or buy a few things at the grocery. > > I just weighed my Atlantis, without water bottles but otherwise as > ridden. It weighs 35.5 pounds. I don't understand how I could > possibly have something that I could call a commute bike that weighed > 23 pounds. Commute bikes, by their very nature, have fenders, lights > and some kind of bag or basket. Every time I get on the bike, I carry > a lock, a spare tube, a few tools, a patch kit. So my bike weighs > almost half again as much as Patrick's rule. I'm ten pounds over. How > am I supposed to put this bike on a diet, assuming I want to? > Don't try, with an Atlantis. My so called "commuter" is this: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5563676048065808626 As pictured, 23 lb give or take an ounce or two. Actually, if Chauncey ever gets back to me, the Riv ought to soon have a nice, ss, custom mini rear rack suitable for 20 lb max or so to replace the Fly. > > Let's say I'm at my Spanish class and it's time to come home. It's ten > o'clock at night, it's 40 degrees, it's dark, it's raining. I walk out > of class carrying my notebook, dictionary and purse, already wearing > my rain clothes. I'm about to load up my 23-pound bike and ride home. > What does that 23 pound bike look like? How is it 12.5 pounds less > than my actual 35.5 pound bike? > Magic. See above. Really, though, it was my commuter back when I commuted 30 miles rt (I often took the bus 1/4 way). Rain or shine (well, not too much rain here), shine or dark for sure. I guess my usual commute load, when I commuted, was generally sub 10 lb with bag: lunch, a few papers, outer layer and gloves in the evenings, perhaps a pair of shoes, tho' I left a large wardrobe at work. My Fargo is heavier than your Atlantis, at least if I add two larger Ortliebs, but then the wheels are massively heavy. I use that for errands, too, and it's fun, but it's a different ride altogether, and that is really the point about all this claptrap about weight. > > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > > My hovercraft is full of eels > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
