On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:16 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
  Nice commuter under 25 lb equipped but not laden. Mine is
> probably under 23 lb with rack but no bag.

How does this work? First of all, why are you weighing a commuting
bike without bags, when every single time you commute on it, you will
use bags? It seems to me, to make meaningful comparisons, we should
weigh our bikes as ridden. That is, a meaningful weight of a commuter
bike is the weight of the bike with everything you normally have on
your commuter bike when you take out the things you take out at work
or when you get home (your laptop, any clothes you change into at
work, your lunch, and so forth).

I just weighed my Atlantis, without water bottles but otherwise as
ridden.  It weighs 35.5 pounds. I don't understand how I could
possibly have something that I could call a commute bike that weighed
23 pounds. Commute bikes, by their very nature, have fenders, lights
and some kind of bag or basket. Every time I get on the bike, I carry
a lock, a spare tube, a few tools, a patch kit. So my bike weighs
almost half again as much as Patrick's rule. I'm ten pounds over. How
am I supposed to put this bike on a diet, assuming I want to?

Let's say I'm at my Spanish class and it's time to come home. It's ten
o'clock at night, it's 40 degrees, it's dark, it's raining. I walk out
of class carrying my notebook, dictionary and purse, already wearing
my rain clothes. I'm about to load up my 23-pound bike and ride home.
What does that 23 pound bike look like? How is it 12.5 pounds less
than my actual 35.5 pound bike?


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