But that's just the deal, they go on and off with such ease that you can remove them when in 'public'. Beside walking around in Splats is not worse than doing the duck walk in cleated racing road shoes.
The public already know that bicyclers are a weird lot.
-Jim
On Feb 20, 2011, at 7:14 PM  Feb 20, 2011, robert zeidler wrote:

You know, I'll just put up w/ pink, wrinkly feet.  With all the
attention that's paid by us in the Riv community to walking into a
coffee shop wearing lycra....  But who in their right mind would wear
those things into....anywhere.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Mike S <mikeshalj...@gmail.com> wrote:
"drab olive foot-apron" - Bikesnob NYC.

major LOLZ.

On Feb 20, 6:40 pm, Mojo <gjtra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I will third the cotton stubby hat. I throw it in a bag for
emergencies, like sun/rain/bugs in my eyes. Keeps the sun off my
'solar sex panel' (John Hiatt lyrics). Great even for those spring-
like ski days. Other Riv hats just don't fit my 7 3/4" head.

And I love my Brand V Grab Sack. Its my man purse. What ugly badge is
Earl talking about? I don't even notice.

On Feb 20, 12:49 pm, Dan Abelson <d...@abelsons.net> wrote:

I am a big fan of the cotton stubby.
I like the look of the short bill. While the price is a bit high I think it
is worth it.

Dan Abelson

On Feb 20, 2011 10:37 AM, "Earl Grey" <earlg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting post. Here are my personal reasons for the underselling
items :)

Brand V Grab Sack:

I have a Swiss Army gasmask bag that is very similar, albeit a bit
more narrow and taller, and uses a metal button closure. Love that
bag, take it everywhere. So the basic concept is sound, I think,
though perhaps we are all too attached to bags that attach to the
bike. My reason for NOT considering it? May seem snobbish, but I think the Brand V logo patch is UGLY. The graphic design does not complement the bag design at all. The fact that the RBW logo is so lovely makes the Brand V logo even more of a crime. But actually it's the colors
that really get to me. Can't think of colors that would clash more
with the lovely tan and olive of the bag.

An aside: The MUSA logo is terrible as well, mostly because it's way
too big. I do like the Sackville logo. But I bet you if all those
items simply sported some variant of the Rivendell logo, not only
would they sell better, they would also help sell more bikes. While we are at it, while I love (most of) the model-specific head badges, I
think Rivendell is doing itself a disservice here as well, by
incurring additional cost, and missing a blatant opportunity to
strengthen the Rivendell brand (you really have to examine my
Hillborne in detail to find our who makes it). I know, I don't like
marketing either, but it's such an easy opportunity to get the
Rivendell message out to more people. Just use the lovely Rivendell logo you have on all your in-house designed products, and don't waste your time creating more and more brands (with ugly logos) that most
people cannot connect with Rivendell.

Windshield:

Again, color. Yes, safety is good, but there are other ways to be seen
from the front. If I lived in a colder climate and it came in an
interesting shade of green, or a dark grey, I'd get one.

Stubby Bill caps:

I have the wool stubby, and LOVE it. I think the problem here is that Riv has a bunch of nice cotton hats at half the price, and that the woolly one is the same price as the cotton stubby. Most folks expect
to pay less for cotton than for wool.

Note Cards:

Well, I have to admit it's been a long time since I wrote a card that wasn't for my wife, and she isn't into bikes that much. Maybe that's
the problem: Perhaps Riv owners still write cards, but do we write
them to our bike buddies? We either see them regularly on rides, or we
communicate on the computer through this group and others.

Ponchos:

Once again, color. Admittedly bright color in a rain poncho is more important than in a wind shirt, but I have never been a fan of primary colors. I much prefer the orange of the rain pants for the poncho (I know, you probably can't get that fabric in orange), and would prefer the rain pants in black, cause pants get dirty and light colored ones
will look yucky. A bright top should be enough to be seen, no? And
yeah, considering the price of the breathable MUSA rain pants, the
poncho seems a bit over-priced.

Cheers,

Gernot

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