> For example, are their differences between the acclaimed Toyo and current > Waterford forks?
Does Waterford make the Atlantis forks? Nobilette made the early Waterford Hilsen forks. On Jan 26, 12:42 pm, Bob <prov...@umbc.edu> wrote: > The current Riv Atlantis is built by Waterford. My original question > concerned whether, excluding paint, braze ons and probably tubing, the > Waterford is identical to the Toyo build. This is not questionaing the > obviously excellent Riv quality, but about subtle specifics of > interest to velohistorians an bike nerds. The question remains > unanswered. For example, are their differences between the acclaimed > Toyo and current Waterford forks? What about subtle bends in the > chainstay and other tubing? There must be things that Toyo and > Waterford do uniquely well. What are they? > > On Jan 26, 1:19 pm, Ryan <ryter...@mts.net> wrote: > > > > > As far as I know, Atlantises (Atlanti?) were only Toyo-built. But I'm > > sure that someone will correct me if I'm wrong. > > > My impression is that later models...I'm thinking of the AHH in > > particular ...were either Toyo or Waterford-built. And as others on > > this thread have noted, the Sams are either built by Waterford or in > > Taiwan under the supervision of Toyo > > > That being said, regardless of the origin, Grant's design philosophy > > and attention to detail are evident...you say tomaytoes and I say > > tomaahtoes . Rivendells are great bikes > > > Regards, > > Ryan in Winnipeg,MB > > > On Jan 22, 10:34 pm, Bob <prov...@umbc.edu> wrote: > > > > How does the Toyo built Atlantis differ in quality and/or geometry > > > from the Waterford edition? Exclude differences in braze-ons, > > > kickstand plate and range of sizes. > > > > In other words, what, if anything, was gained or lost by the change in > > > builder?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.