Plus it comes in 180mm!!! I like the idea of a close ratio cassette, and a wide range double. What's the largest spread a double-ring front der will do? Any body? Bueller? Bueller?
RGZ On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:56 PM, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > "The White Industry crank & BB is $100 less": > > True, sort of. $85 less if you choose a steel BB. $25 less of you > choose a Ti BB > > "The White Industry crank & BB is a 100 grams less": > > False. White Crank 665g. White Steel BB 226g. White Ti BB 165g. So > 830g total or 891g total. That Sugino is 787g for everything. > > "The White Industry crank & BB is far more versatile": > > How so? I'd call this a push. The White can run any of 8 proprietary > big rings and anything with 5 bolts as a small ring. The Sugino can > run essentially anything in 110mm as a big ring (which is a number > greater than 8), and anything in 110 or 74 as a small ring. The only > thing that comes to mind that you can't run on the Sugino is a 22T > small ring. Among the things you can't run on the White is a 53T big > ring, or a 54. > > "The White Industry crank & BB is better looking": > > To each his own, but I think they are both very attractive in very > different ways. > > "The White Industry crank & BB is made in the USA to boot" > > Absolutely true. And they are nice on the phone. > > FWIW, if I received either crankset for my birthday coming up on Feb > 8th, I would be thrilled. :) > > My OP was just to point out that the Sugino one is actually available > in the US, which is something I doubted would happen. It's cool that > there are options. > > On Jan 21, 1:58 pm, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote: >> The White Industry crank & BB is $100 less, a 100 grams less, far more >> versitle, better looking, and made in the USA to boot. >> michael >> >> On Jan 21, 3:05 pm, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com> wrote: >> >> > The only concern I would have with that combination is the lack of a >> > real low gear. There are climbs I do, especially on dirt roads, that >> > something like a 24-28 or 30 is far easier to maintain for a 30 min. >> > duration then would be a 30-28. On shorter climbs you can get out of >> > the saddle to help and most paved roads are designed and built with >> > reasonable grades. >> >> > I wish there were some curently available cranks in the 94bcd, it >> > seems to me the perfect design for a compact double without all the >> > extra bolts of the TA. >> >> > ~Mike >> >> > On Jan 21, 11:11 am, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > I'm running a 44/30 on a 94mm bolt circle with an 11-28 9 speed >> > > cassette and it's spectacular. I can cruise easily at 20kph in the >> > > middle of the cogset on the 30. I can cruise quickly at 20mph in the >> > > middle of the cogset on the 44. My highest gear is a 44-11 and I can >> > > spin that out on a decent and be right at 40mph, beyond which I always >> > > have been happy to coast. I'm going to try 46/29 sometime (I already >> > > have the rings), but so far so good. With a double, the chainline >> > > allows all 18 combinations to be used, although I still avoid the two >> > > extreme crosschain combinations (44-28 and 30-11). 16 totally usable >> > > gears with basically zero overlaps. Furthermore, with the Campy >> > > compact double front der that Riv sells, my setup miraculously is 99% >> > > trim free. It's great treating your front shifting like a switch, >> > > instead of gently trying to hit the middle (and, yes, I have a number >> > > of bikes with a triple. I know how to shift a triple). On a bike >> > > that won't be heavily loaded, I think having 16 usable and well-spaced >> > > gears between 28 and 104 gear inches is plenty. >> >> > > On Jan 21, 7:24 am, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > > For some reason I still prefer triples. On a long sustained climb in >> > > > the mountains I find I fatigue less easily if I spin at a certain >> > > > cadence and force. I also prefer something in the 38-40 tooth range >> > > > for most flatish riding. Coming down long gradual mountians a ring in >> > > > the 48-50 range gives me a nice steady pace. It also allows a tighter >> > > > frewheel/cassette so it's easier to find a nice combinatioin in every >> > > > terrrain. >> >> > > > The one thing I need to try is something like a 44-29 to see if the 44 >> > > > can meet most conditions. I have been scouring EBAY looking for 94bcd >> > > > cranks so I can cobble something together to try it out. >> >> > > > And $500+ for a crankset seems crazy to me . >> >> > > > ~Mike >> >> > > > On Jan 20, 10:27 pm, rinjin <feltov...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > > > Ah, I see. Well if one of those combinations makes sense for you and >> > > > > you need to save some grams over the VO setup then I guess this makes >> > > > > a certain kind of sense. For a light-ish road bike I'm pretty happy >> > > > > with my 50-34 setup. >> >> > > > > Brian >> >> > > > > On Jan 20, 10:07 pm, Earl Grey <earlg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > > > > The cool thing about the 801 is that it has 74 BCD holes as far >> > > > > > out as >> > > > > > where the inner chainring sits (I >> > > > > > think):http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/english/ox801d_main_english.htm >> > > > > > (A little hard to tell from the website, but if you look at the >> > > > > > left- >> > > > > > most bolt hole in the third photo you can see that a 74 BCD ring >> > > > > > would >> > > > > > replace the inner ring; i.e. this is not a triple.) >> >> > > > > > So you can replace the inner 110 BCD ring with a 74 BCD ring and >> > > > > > run a >> > > > > > wide range double with an inner ring down to 24 teeth. A pretty >> > > > > > cool >> > > > > > idea, and if they make an XD2/XD600 variant like this, I'll buy it >> > > > > > in >> > > > > > a heartbeat. As far as what's available now, I'd rather get the VO >> > > > > > TA >> > > > > > copy; cheaper and prettier IMO. >> >> > > > > > Gernot >> >> > > > > > On Jan 21, 11:37 am, rinjin <feltov...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > I don't mind the looks so much, but the price seems a little >> > > > > > > high. Is >> > > > > > > there an advantage over a Campy 10s crankset, either Veloce or >> > > > > > > Centaur, with PowerTorque? Like this:http://tinyurl.com/4logk38. >> > > > > > > And >> > > > > > > about $300 cheaper. What am I missing? Low Q factor? >> >> > > > > > > Brian >> > > > > > > Park City >> >> > > > > > > On Jan 20, 2:40 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > >http://store.somafab.com/suoxcoplrocr.html >> >> > > > > > > > Soma Fab actually has the Sugino OX801D in stock. Crankset >> > > > > > > > and BB for >> > > > > > > > a whopping $529. Way too expensive for many of us, and too >> > > > > > > > spaceshippy looking for many of us. That's about what I >> > > > > > > > thought it >> > > > > > > > would cost. Somebody building a totally tricked-out Roadeo >> > > > > > > > should run >> > > > > > > > these and show them off. High-end road bits can still be >> > > > > > > > carbon-free >> > > > > > > > if they want to be.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > - Show quoted text - >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
