"The White Industry crank & BB is $100 less": True, sort of. $85 less if you choose a steel BB. $25 less of you choose a Ti BB
"The White Industry crank & BB is a 100 grams less": False. White Crank 665g. White Steel BB 226g. White Ti BB 165g. So 830g total or 891g total. That Sugino is 787g for everything. "The White Industry crank & BB is far more versatile": How so? I'd call this a push. The White can run any of 8 proprietary big rings and anything with 5 bolts as a small ring. The Sugino can run essentially anything in 110mm as a big ring (which is a number greater than 8), and anything in 110 or 74 as a small ring. The only thing that comes to mind that you can't run on the Sugino is a 22T small ring. Among the things you can't run on the White is a 53T big ring, or a 54. "The White Industry crank & BB is better looking": To each his own, but I think they are both very attractive in very different ways. "The White Industry crank & BB is made in the USA to boot" Absolutely true. And they are nice on the phone. FWIW, if I received either crankset for my birthday coming up on Feb 8th, I would be thrilled. :) My OP was just to point out that the Sugino one is actually available in the US, which is something I doubted would happen. It's cool that there are options. On Jan 21, 1:58 pm, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote: > The White Industry crank & BB is $100 less, a 100 grams less, far more > versitle, better looking, and made in the USA to boot. > michael > > On Jan 21, 3:05 pm, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > > > The only concern I would have with that combination is the lack of a > > real low gear. There are climbs I do, especially on dirt roads, that > > something like a 24-28 or 30 is far easier to maintain for a 30 min. > > duration then would be a 30-28. On shorter climbs you can get out of > > the saddle to help and most paved roads are designed and built with > > reasonable grades. > > > I wish there were some curently available cranks in the 94bcd, it > > seems to me the perfect design for a compact double without all the > > extra bolts of the TA. > > > ~Mike > > > On Jan 21, 11:11 am, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I'm running a 44/30 on a 94mm bolt circle with an 11-28 9 speed > > > cassette and it's spectacular. I can cruise easily at 20kph in the > > > middle of the cogset on the 30. I can cruise quickly at 20mph in the > > > middle of the cogset on the 44. My highest gear is a 44-11 and I can > > > spin that out on a decent and be right at 40mph, beyond which I always > > > have been happy to coast. I'm going to try 46/29 sometime (I already > > > have the rings), but so far so good. With a double, the chainline > > > allows all 18 combinations to be used, although I still avoid the two > > > extreme crosschain combinations (44-28 and 30-11). 16 totally usable > > > gears with basically zero overlaps. Furthermore, with the Campy > > > compact double front der that Riv sells, my setup miraculously is 99% > > > trim free. It's great treating your front shifting like a switch, > > > instead of gently trying to hit the middle (and, yes, I have a number > > > of bikes with a triple. I know how to shift a triple). On a bike > > > that won't be heavily loaded, I think having 16 usable and well-spaced > > > gears between 28 and 104 gear inches is plenty. > > > > On Jan 21, 7:24 am, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > > > > > For some reason I still prefer triples. On a long sustained climb in > > > > the mountains I find I fatigue less easily if I spin at a certain > > > > cadence and force. I also prefer something in the 38-40 tooth range > > > > for most flatish riding. Coming down long gradual mountians a ring in > > > > the 48-50 range gives me a nice steady pace. It also allows a tighter > > > > frewheel/cassette so it's easier to find a nice combinatioin in every > > > > terrrain. > > > > > The one thing I need to try is something like a 44-29 to see if the 44 > > > > can meet most conditions. I have been scouring EBAY looking for 94bcd > > > > cranks so I can cobble something together to try it out. > > > > > And $500+ for a crankset seems crazy to me . > > > > > ~Mike > > > > > On Jan 20, 10:27 pm, rinjin <feltov...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Ah, I see. Well if one of those combinations makes sense for you and > > > > > you need to save some grams over the VO setup then I guess this makes > > > > > a certain kind of sense. For a light-ish road bike I'm pretty happy > > > > > with my 50-34 setup. > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > On Jan 20, 10:07 pm, Earl Grey <earlg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > The cool thing about the 801 is that it has 74 BCD holes as far out > > > > > > as > > > > > > where the inner chainring sits (I > > > > > > think):http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/english/ox801d_main_english.htm > > > > > > (A little hard to tell from the website, but if you look at the > > > > > > left- > > > > > > most bolt hole in the third photo you can see that a 74 BCD ring > > > > > > would > > > > > > replace the inner ring; i.e. this is not a triple.) > > > > > > > So you can replace the inner 110 BCD ring with a 74 BCD ring and > > > > > > run a > > > > > > wide range double with an inner ring down to 24 teeth. A pretty cool > > > > > > idea, and if they make an XD2/XD600 variant like this, I'll buy it > > > > > > in > > > > > > a heartbeat. As far as what's available now, I'd rather get the VO > > > > > > TA > > > > > > copy; cheaper and prettier IMO. > > > > > > > Gernot > > > > > > > On Jan 21, 11:37 am, rinjin <feltov...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't mind the looks so much, but the price seems a little > > > > > > > high. Is > > > > > > > there an advantage over a Campy 10s crankset, either Veloce or > > > > > > > Centaur, with PowerTorque? Like this:http://tinyurl.com/4logk38. > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > about $300 cheaper. What am I missing? Low Q factor? > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > Park City > > > > > > > > On Jan 20, 2:40 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >http://store.somafab.com/suoxcoplrocr.html > > > > > > > > > Soma Fab actually has the Sugino OX801D in stock. Crankset and > > > > > > > > BB for > > > > > > > > a whopping $529. Way too expensive for many of us, and too > > > > > > > > spaceshippy looking for many of us. That's about what I > > > > > > > > thought it > > > > > > > > would cost. Somebody building a totally tricked-out Roadeo > > > > > > > > should run > > > > > > > > these and show them off. High-end road bits can still be > > > > > > > > carbon-free > > > > > > > > if they want to be.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
