I haven't even begun to tap the potential of my Sam, and every time I
think I need a "new" bike I realize I could achieve pretty much what I
want with a wheel or cockpit change on the Sam. Of course, there are
limits to how much wrenching one is willing to do, and I could
certainly see preferring to have multiple bikes set up with different
"personalities", ready to go, space and budget willing of course.

I guess I might need a "hardcore" mountain bike for really gnarly
stuff and boulder-strewn dry riverbeds, but I don't do much of that
anymore. And I'll need a step-through at some point in my life, as I
can imagine old age will someday make lofting my leg over the very
tall (for me, at least) Sam a problem.

But I know I'll never race, or do a self-supported offroad tour across
Mongolia. I have a beater commuter bike, that will probably some-day
get Xtracycled.

A couple weeks ago there was a thread listing the Riv bikes in order,
from most "roady" to most "rough." The Sam was dead center of
everyone's list.

-Pete



On Jan 10, 8:52 am, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote:
> Guess that means I have never qualified, as have never been able to
> pass another rider.
>
> Strangely enough, been finding more and more that my Rivendell is the
> most limited (and limiting) bike.  Maybe it's time to move on.
> Somebody is probably going to get a good deal on a built up Sam
> Hillborne soon.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Jan 10, 6:45 am, robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1
>
> > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Kelly Sleeper <tkslee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well this is the "Riv Owners Group" what better place to be snarky?
> > > I say Snark on.. we aren't that thin skinned.
>
> > > Kelly

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