It's not the customer's fault if the saddle breaks or bends when being pushed back as far as it will go. If S-A does not want anyone doing it, they should make the adjustable part of the rails shorter.
Jay Hartman On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Bill M. <bmenn...@comcast.net> wrote: > Mike, > > The S-A can indeed be mounted pretty far back, but the mfg warns > against it: > > "Bent Frame Wire - A small number of saddles have been replaced in the > past two years due to frame wire bending during a ride. These first > happened exclusively with mountain bike riders doing extreme riding. > The majority of the frames that bent were using Thompson seat posts, > and others like them with the rail clamp centered over the top of the > seat post tube, and on seat posts with very short clamps. Many who > managed to bend rails also had their saddle set back as far as it will > go. The riders have been men and women of various weights on Standard > & Clydesdale models. The population of damaged saddles is so very > small we are at a loss to identify a cause. Engineers examine > offending saddles as they are returned. We replace these saddles with > the caveat that the rider use a seat post with longer section clamp > and more setback in the clamp. Anyone riding a saddle set back as far > as it will go on our rails is likely on a poorly fitting bike frame. > If your frame fits you appropriately, if the handlebars are properly > positioned (not too far away and too far down as is too common), and > if you have a well engineered seat post, your saddle will be > positioned in the middle of the rails. See the Seat Post section in > our Saddle & Handlebar Adjustment Procedure pamphlet that comes with > each saddle." > > They aren't kidding. Ask how I know... > > Bill > > On Jan 8, 7:06 pm, Mike S <mikeshalj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Also, an issue in my saddle selection is fore-aft adjustment. I wanted > > to try the Selle An-Atomica because it seems it can mounted much > > further back than a B.17, which I need on the bike it is for that has > > a too-short top tube. I would rather have the problem solved by a > > saddle than another $150 lugged nitto wayback post. How do the rails > > on the Berthoud compare with a B.17 and S.A? > > > > On Jan 8, 9:40 pm, Mike S <mikeshalj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I just bought a Selle An-Atomica LD Clydesdale saddle, mainly because > > > it was on sale for $133 and I'm intrigued by the design and that it's > > > MUSA. I'm wondering if I may have made a mistake by choosing this > > > saddle over the Berthoud, which I considered but deemed not worthy of > > > the higher cost. > > > > > I've been riding a B.17 for about 3000 miles so far and it seems to be > > > in real good shape and I am very comfortable on a B.17, but I'm > > > wondering if there is something better. My primary concerns are a ride > > > that is of maximum comfort, and I also want outstanding durability. > > > Can any Selle An-Atomica users vouch for it's longevity, and can > > > anyone compare the two (Berthoud & S.A)? > > > > > Although the B.17 has served me well so far, I am a little worried > > > about the longevity with a post-acquisition saddle, and I'm also > > > generally always looking for gear improvements. Is the verdict that > > > the Gilles Berthoud is the best bang for the buck, despite the higher > > > cost? > > > > > Also, my riding is always with the handlebars a few centimeters higher > > > than the saddle. > > > > > On Jan 8, 2:27 pm, Lee <leec...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Rene. I just got mine in. Here's a brief visual comparison of the > > > > saddle vis-a-vis a B-17 Champion Special: > > > > > >http://tinyurl.com/23eyb8o > > > > > > I've been slowly accumulating parts to upgrade my distance bike. The > > > > Aspin will replace a Selle An-Atomica, which will go to my > saddle-less > > > > camping/utility bike. I had been switching my B-17S between my > > > > commuter (the Quickbeam) and the utility bike. > > > > > > Best, > > > > Lee > > > > > > On Jan 7, 3:47 pm, Rene Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks for all the responses. I'm ordering one tonight to try it. I > > > > > like the B17 except for its nose up position to prevent sliding > > > > > forward. Always thought it should be flatter. > > > > > > > Seems like the Berthoud Touring might make me completely happy. > > > > > > > René > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone 4 > > > > > > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Kelly Sleeper < > tkslee...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Only reason I wouldn't try a 200 dollar saddle is if I can't > return it. It > > > > > >> looks to me to be a very well made comfortable saddle that has a > benefit if > > > > > >> you buy thier saddle bags too. > > > > > > > >> I would also out of desperation try it if I didn't have > comfortable saddles > > > > > >> now. > > > > > > > > wallbike.com > > > > > > > > 6month unconditional return guarantee. > > > > > > > > -sv > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > > > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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