Here's way you were reading from Douglas Brooks on Resolved vs Resourceful bikes: http://search.bikelist.org/?SearchString=resolved&msgfrom=d...@mail.rochester.edu&SortBy=MsgDate[d]
Courtesy of the bikelist.org archives... Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jan 8, 1:54 pm, JimD <rasterd...@comcast.net> wrote: > Well said Jim. > I wish I could find the thing I read from Douglas Brooks where he > talks about 'resolved' and 'resourcefull' bikes. > > A Hampsten Tournesol Rando bike is an example of a resolved bike. > Everything is optimized for the function of long distance/unsupported > riding. > > A Rivendell (pick any one) is a premier example of a 'resourceful' bike. > Grant designs great riding bikes that are flexibly configurable. They > may be aimed at different > primary riding domains (Roadeo vs Bombadil) but can be setup across a > wide range within the > design target domain. > > Underlying this approach to the hardware is a sensibility for > bicycling and bicyclers that is wide > ranging - everything but racing. > > For me this sensibility has enriched the experience of bicycling > beyond the bounds of my perspective during > my first 20 years of riding. I was riding '10 speed racing bikes' and > should go fast, train, be like Eddy. > As I 'matured' I found the challenge of going fast and faster was > getting hard and harder. > I had to succumb to the dreaded triple to climb the hills around here. > > Once I realized I wasn't racing. I started thinking about other > approaches. > Having discovered Rivendell I'm riding more and having more fun than > ever before. > > -JimD > > On Jan 8, 2011, at 11:09 AM Jan 8, 2011, CycloFiend wrote: > > > > > > > > > on 1/7/11 12:06 PM, Kelly Sleeper at tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: > > (great questions which ended with...) > >> What makes the Rivendell Different.. how does one explain that > >> difference to > >> those that just see a steel antique looking bke? > > > I think there have been a couple of handling or "discussion of trail" > > threads where this has popped up before. These are a couple points > > I've > > probably made before... > > > Rivendells (and I include all of the designs, not simply custom > > models) have > > a similar quality of ride. While a Roadeo is different from a > > Bombadil, > > there's an underlying set of design tenets which seems pretty > > consistent. > > For me, in my riding conditions, they are superlative. They are > > stable, > > predictable, solid handling bikes that generally keep me out of > > trouble, and > > then react appropriately when I'm silly enough to get my self into > > it. If > > they didn't handle well, nothing else would matter. > > > The handling and ride is a sum of a all parts. It isn't _JUST_ > > trail, head > > angle, bb height, chainstay length, angles, and length. It's all of > > those > > things. You cannot just change one aspect and have the same bike. > > The > > bicycles are a product of those variables, plus the things which > > Grant has > > learned in the XX number of years of plotting out frames, testing > > them and > > thinking pretty deeply about the results. > > > The bicycle designs have grown to be incredibly versatile. Ten years > > ago, > > the longer reach brakes weren't availalble. The clearances which we > > now > > enjoy were only possible with canti brakes. Finding a 28mm 700C > > tire was > > difficult, let alone a higher quality 30mm+ tire. The limiting > > factors have > > been the components, and Grant has always been pushing the envelope > > in this > > particular corner of the bicycle world. Add to that his commitment > > to high > > quality bags and racks and you end up with a useful and continually > > variable > > design. As I've repeated too many times, both my Quickbeam and > > Hilsen have > > been errand bikes, road bikes, mountain bikes, race bikes and brevet > > bikes > > in the time I've had them. Over the past couple years, I've grown to > > feel > > that if a bicycle can't be fendered or adapted, it really is not a > > "bicycle" > > in the true sense. In other words, when people ask what my "road > > bike" is, > > I kind of stare at them blankly. > > > All of this could be done roughly, or quickly, or with a more > > industrial > > design tenet, but the fact that Rivendell connects the tubes with > > lugs, has > > small, undernoticed details and pays attention to decal fonts, paint > > colors, > > and bicycle packaging (just to pick out a quick few) to the extent > > that they > > do just locks them in for me. It distinguishes them as practitioners > > of a > > craft. It's important to me to support that. The "finish" work is > > part of > > the craft...part of the art of what they practice. > > > I suppose it's easy to equate the outside, finishing layer with the > > whole. > > The first thing someone notices is the paint layer, the contrasting > > colors, > > the lugs. While that's part of the equation, the strength lies > > underneath. > > > - Jim > > > -- > > Jim Edgar > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > > bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en > > . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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