> 3 and I'm singing old "Bread" tunes on the Karaoke > machine.
For all our sakes we definitely hope you stick with 2! On Dec 10, 3:24 pm, Montclair BobbyB <montclairbob...@gmail.com> wrote: > You give me WAY too much credit, friend... I'm a cheap date. 2 pints > is my max... 3 and I'm singing old "Bread" tunes on the Karaoke > machine. But either way, I ALWAYS ride in control, thank you. > > Peace, > BB > > On Dec 10, 4:13 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > The biggest sacrifice from the big BobbyB will be if he forgoes pint > > number 11 in the interest of keeping his head about him. We'll see if > > he can take his convictions that far.... > > > On Dec 10, 12:38 pm, Montclair BobbyB <montclairbob...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > It's a shared responsibility, period... AND a matter of common sense. > > > We debate this topic ad nauseum within the cycling community in my > > > home state of NJ, in terms of who has what rights, and who has > > > accountability... Although I'd much rather be cycling than driving, I > > > spend far more time as a motorist than as a cyclist, so my take on > > > this issue: > > > > AS A CYCLIST I try to maintain the mindset that I'm merely one bad > > > situation away from being mowed down, so I try to stack the odds in my > > > favor by any and all means necessary. That includes riding where > > > there are fewest cars. One of the great things about riding a Riv, I > > > can take sidewalks, paths, alleyways with rough surface... I don't > > > have to stick to the car routes. But when that's impractical and I'm > > > forced to ride with traffic I make sure I can be clearly seen and that > > > I stay out of the way of motorists, regardless of what I perceive my > > > rights as a cyclist to be. I don't care about whether I'm right; I > > > just care about not getting hit. I say ride defensively in every way > > > possible.... > > > > AS A MOTORIST I try to maintain the mindset that I'm merely one bad > > > situation away from hitting another motorist, a cyclist, pedestrian, > > > deer, etc., so again, it's a matter of stacking the odds in my favor, > > > like slowing down, and maybe being aware of the stretches of road > > > where people, deer, and ninja-clad-stealth-night-riders all lurk. It > > > comes down to this: If you allow yourself to fall into a situation > > > where someone else's misjudgment, compounded with your own misjudgment > > > creates conditions that are ripe for an accident, it's time to rethink > > > your role in that equation. I say drive defensively in every way > > > possible. > > > > Tonight I'll be driving home from the office and then riding my bike > > > to my favorite pub... First, (thanks to this enlightening > > > conversation) I'll take my time driving home. Then before I hop on my > > > Riv, I'll trade my jacket with the reflectorized bands for my wife's > > > blazing DOT vest (she's an EMT)... No such thing as overkill... just > > > gotta stack those odds... > > > > Peace, > > > BB > > > > On Dec 10, 2:42 pm, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > "Drivers.. they're you and me." > > > > > They're not me... i don't drive. nor do many others. Most who don't, > > > > can't afford to own a car. That's the real world. > > > > > On Dec 10, 2:36 pm, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 11:20 -0800, newenglandbike wrote: > > > > > > I'm all for riding with lights and reflective gear, and do it > > > > > > myself, > > > > > > but take umbrage to the blame-the-victim attitude that puts the > > > > > > responsibility for not getting hit by a car on all on the cyclist. > > > > > > What about pedestrians, should they be all ablaze too? What about > > > > > > people who can't afford to keep CatEye in business trying to make > > > > > > themselves look like a bipedal quasar? > > > > > > Nice rant. Now back in the real world, if you are virtually invisible > > > > > in the dark you certainly have yourself to blame if someone fails to > > > > > see > > > > > you and runs into you. Responsibility is shared, and if you're > > > > > wearing > > > > > nighttime camouflage -- dark clothing, no lighting, no reflectors, > > > > > dark > > > > > gloves, black balaclava pulled down over the face -- as so many > > > > > cyclists > > > > > and pedestrians seem to do, blame yourself if you aren't seen. > > > > > Drivers > > > > > are neither demigods nor demons. They're you and me.- Hide quoted > > > > > text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
