on 11/30/10 8:58 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:

> V-brakes: A lot of people seem to be saying that cantilevers have
> stopping power that's comparable to that of v-brakes, provided that
> the set-up is correct. This has never been my observation, as v-brakes
> have always seemed much more powerful to me. I concede that I may not
> know the secrets to canti set-up, though I have done it many, many
> times, usually for money. For my own bikes, I was a canti-fan up until
> the last year or so, and I used them all. Now I'm all about v-brakes.

The specific benefit for the linear-pull brake design was that it liberated
cable routing.  For suspension mtb's, this was critical.  The cable stop
became part of the brake, so you could run the cabling in all manner of
methods. 

And although Sheldon stated it better than I, the other major difference was
that it took the leverage and "moved" it from the brake to the brake lever.
This simplified setup tremendously, which is arguably what Shimano had
attempted to do by changing to a fixed straddle yoke method of attachment.

Ease of setup is a good thing.  You want brakes to stop you. When canti's
are set up wrong, the braking can be horrible. Use the brakes you can set up
reliably and understand when things go wrong.

My main beef with linear pull has never changed - aside from the issues of
fender mounting with a lp brake - they lack the range of useful response
which properly set up canti's have.

To me, linear pulls changed the response from "pressure-based" to
"time-based".  On my lp bikes, you would brake with a little "dit" of
pressure to the lever - usually with one or two fingers, which would nearly
lock the wheel.  So the braking would tend to be be on/off, on/off, on/off
until you had decellerated.

With canti's, I've found there to be much more middle ground.  You can scrub
a little speed to start, and if you aren't quite right, apply more pressure.
In the real world, where panic starts to set in, as you ramp up your
adrenalin, you apply more brake.

With linear pulls, where you quickly get to skidding levels, you need an
"anti-lock" circuit in your brain which tells your paws to lighten up.

Obviously, this is what works for me, and it also gets reinforced
biomechanically everytime I use canti's, on and off-road.  If I'd just
ridden lp brakes, I'd have a better developed sense of pressure sensitivity
with the narrower range inherent to the design.


- Jim "off to work on a canti-braked Quickbeam..."

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