Definitely get a good U-lock. I've had a bike stolen that was u-locked to a parking meter in downtown Berkeley (a number of years ago).
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:50 AM, erik jensen <bicyclen...@gmail.com> wrote: > Get a good u-lock, I might use a too-heavy one at night (new york krypto) > but prefer knowing at least the frame will be there for me while I'm inside > a concert or otherwise. Use a good locking skewer for the other unlocked > wheel (you can save money by splitting it up across a couple bikes, and just > locking different wheels). Leave as little room as possible for squeezing a > pump into the ulock. My messenger buddy uses skewers on both, a the smallest > possible ulock--barely clears his frame and a parking meter. That's a good > way to go, too, but harder sometimes with racked bicycles. > > At this point, the worst that could happen is theft of your seat. > > I throw a plastic bag over mine during the night, and will do the same with > a seatbag. Seems to do the trick well enough, though of course you can get > particularly unlucky--in any town. > > I used to do the auxilary cable technique to secure my junk, until I saw > somebody saw through one with a serrated knife in about 30 seconds. Since > then, I just keep it all dirty and park where there are eyes on the street. > > I've had plenty of lights stolen, but just the cheap kind (well, 30 dollars > isn't super-cheap, but it isn't a phil hub). Knock on wood, never a bicycle. > > ~erik > > > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:05 AM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Interesting and excellent point! Particularly a concern in a high theft >> area. I don't have that problem, at least not hugely... >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Lee <leec...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey David. Hmmm, I've known about the Sheldon locking strategy and the >>> only thing that concerns me is someone who doesn't know much about >>> bikes coming by and undoing my quick releases and trying to remove the >>> frame and finding out it can't be done. Then, just dropping the frame >>> to the pavement. I'm worried that the person might damage the frame/ >>> wheel when tugging or when ditching the attempt. I don't know if this >>> has every happened to anyone in the real world, though. >>> >>> Best, >>> Lee >>> >>> On Nov 11, 9:18 am, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Lee, what are your thoughts on the seat tube lock point vs. rear wheel >>> lock >>> > point (aka Sheldon technique< >>> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html>)? >>> > >>> > I typically do the Sheldon, but have always wondered if it's good >>> enough... >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Lee <leec...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > Just to follow-up, I took some pics of my locked up QB outside of my >>> > > lab. Note that my workplace is secluded, remote, and well-trafficked >>> > > by people, and it's on a pretty secluded campus with hundreds of >>> > > barely locked bikes everywhere. So, my work lock and cable are less >>> > > beefy than their counterparts at home, which I use when running >>> around >>> > > San Francisco. >>> > >>> > > The pics: >>> > >http://tinyurl.com/286ywhb >>> > >http://tinyurl.com/2bymylj >>> > >>> > > Best, >>> > > Lee >>> > >>> > > On Nov 10, 11:39 pm, Lee <leec...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > > Hi Jose. I live in San Francisco and frequent the East and South >>> Bay >>> > > > areas regularly. Here's my two cents: Definitely do not rely on a >>> > > > cable lock in the Bay Area. Of course, thieves will target high-end >>> > > > bikes and components, but I think even more so, they target weak >>> > > > locks--cable locks in particular. Ironically, in this way, cable >>> locks >>> > > > act as an attractant in my opinion, regardless of the bike. On any >>> > > > given weekend morning I can walk the streets near my apartment and >>> > > > find part of a cable lock on the sidewalk or in the gutter. >>> > >>> > > > I ride my Quickbeam as my daily bike, and I do lock it up outside >>> > > > during the work day, as well as out in the city during the weekend >>> and >>> > > > nights. It's outfitted with a B-17 Special and either a Phil hub or >>> > > > Shimano dynamo hub front wheel. In the latter case, I'll also have >>> a >>> > > > B&M Cyo mounted to a small front rack. And, I usually have a tool >>> > > > pouch hung from the saddle and a SuperFlash mounted on the seat >>> stay. >>> > > > My locking solution is a heavy cable through both wheels and the >>> > > > saddle rails, which is then locked along with the frame to a bike >>> rack >>> > > > with a Kryptonite u-lock. I think it's the Evolution. I usually >>> take >>> > > > my tool pouch if it's night. During the day, depending on the area, >>> I >>> > > > may leave it on my bike. I always leave the SuperFlash and Cyo on >>> my >>> > > > bike regardless of time or place. >>> > >>> > > > The only thing I feel really secure about this set-up is the frame >>> and >>> > > > u-lock situation. I take my chances with the heavy cable, hoping >>> that >>> > > > a bike thief won't try to get through that just to get my Brooks or >>> a >>> > > > Phil hub. One thing that works in my favor is the number of nicely >>> > > > accessorized bikes that have become so popular in the city right >>> now. >>> > > > Go to any bar, coffee shop, or yoga studio in the Mission and >>> you'll >>> > > > have your pick of non-secured Brooks saddles and Phil wheels. But, >>> > > > this is no real security solution, obviously. >>> > >>> > > > I guess this is a long-winded way of saying that your instincts are >>> > > > right, a cable-lock-only approach is likely to be a problem. I >>> don't >>> > > > think you have to cover up the logo, but lock down with a u-lock >>> > > > anything you don't won't to risk being taken, and remove any item >>> you >>> > > > positively don't want to be stolen. Other than that, you weigh the >>> > > > risks and take your chances. Of course, that advice probably fits >>> most >>> > > > urban areas. For this one, I think after a month or two of being >>> out >>> > > > and about, you'll find your comfort zone in the areas you frequent. >>> > >>> > > > Good luck! >>> > > > Lee >>> > >>> > > > On Nov 10, 11:00 pm, jose <jose.cor...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > > > > Hi All. I just moved to Oakland (Rockridge) from Houston and I'm >>> > > > > curious what peoples opinions are parking your Rivs here are. >>> > >>> > > > > In Houston, I felt fairly comfortable with locking up my Atlantis >>> with >>> > > > > bags/lights/brooks onboard with just a cable lock during the day. >>> No >>> > > > > one there pays too much attention to an old looking slow bike >>> with a >>> > > > > bunch of crap on it (ha!). >>> > >>> > > > > Here I see only beater-bikes with no bags/lights/brooks parked on >>> the >>> > > > > street. >>> > >>> > > > > So I'm wondering how secure I should go. Never leave lights on >>> the >>> > > > > bike? Cover up the Rivendell logos? Get one of those locking >>> seat >>> > > > > post clamp things? I realize that no bike on the street is ever >>> safe, >>> > > > > but I'd like get a sense of what the probability of getting my >>> stuff >>> > > > > jacked here is. >>> > >>> > > > > Oh, and I'm asking for during the day coffee and errand type >>> trips. >>> > > > > For BART parking and late-night pub crawls I just bought a $50 >>> > > > > craigslist special, but I would really like to be on my Atlantis >>> as >>> > > > > much as I can be. >>> > >>> > > > > Thanks in advance, >>> > > > > -- J. >>> > >>> > > -- >>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> > > To post to this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>> <rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>> > >>> > > . >>> > > For more options, visit this group at >>> > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Cheers, >>> > David >>> > Redlands, CA >>> > >>> > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would >>> > probably benefit more from >>> > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> David >> Redlands, CA >> >> *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would >> probably benefit more from >> improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > oakland, ca > bikenoir.blogspot.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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