Interesting and excellent point! Particularly a concern in a high theft area. I don't have that problem, at least not hugely...
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Lee <leec...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey David. Hmmm, I've known about the Sheldon locking strategy and the > only thing that concerns me is someone who doesn't know much about > bikes coming by and undoing my quick releases and trying to remove the > frame and finding out it can't be done. Then, just dropping the frame > to the pavement. I'm worried that the person might damage the frame/ > wheel when tugging or when ditching the attempt. I don't know if this > has every happened to anyone in the real world, though. > > Best, > Lee > > On Nov 11, 9:18 am, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Lee, what are your thoughts on the seat tube lock point vs. rear wheel > lock > > point (aka Sheldon technique< > http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html>)? > > > > I typically do the Sheldon, but have always wondered if it's good > enough... > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Lee <leec...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Just to follow-up, I took some pics of my locked up QB outside of my > > > lab. Note that my workplace is secluded, remote, and well-trafficked > > > by people, and it's on a pretty secluded campus with hundreds of > > > barely locked bikes everywhere. So, my work lock and cable are less > > > beefy than their counterparts at home, which I use when running around > > > San Francisco. > > > > > The pics: > > >http://tinyurl.com/286ywhb > > >http://tinyurl.com/2bymylj > > > > > Best, > > > Lee > > > > > On Nov 10, 11:39 pm, Lee <leec...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Jose. I live in San Francisco and frequent the East and South Bay > > > > areas regularly. Here's my two cents: Definitely do not rely on a > > > > cable lock in the Bay Area. Of course, thieves will target high-end > > > > bikes and components, but I think even more so, they target weak > > > > locks--cable locks in particular. Ironically, in this way, cable > locks > > > > act as an attractant in my opinion, regardless of the bike. On any > > > > given weekend morning I can walk the streets near my apartment and > > > > find part of a cable lock on the sidewalk or in the gutter. > > > > > > I ride my Quickbeam as my daily bike, and I do lock it up outside > > > > during the work day, as well as out in the city during the weekend > and > > > > nights. It's outfitted with a B-17 Special and either a Phil hub or > > > > Shimano dynamo hub front wheel. In the latter case, I'll also have a > > > > B&M Cyo mounted to a small front rack. And, I usually have a tool > > > > pouch hung from the saddle and a SuperFlash mounted on the seat stay. > > > > My locking solution is a heavy cable through both wheels and the > > > > saddle rails, which is then locked along with the frame to a bike > rack > > > > with a Kryptonite u-lock. I think it's the Evolution. I usually take > > > > my tool pouch if it's night. During the day, depending on the area, I > > > > may leave it on my bike. I always leave the SuperFlash and Cyo on my > > > > bike regardless of time or place. > > > > > > The only thing I feel really secure about this set-up is the frame > and > > > > u-lock situation. I take my chances with the heavy cable, hoping that > > > > a bike thief won't try to get through that just to get my Brooks or a > > > > Phil hub. One thing that works in my favor is the number of nicely > > > > accessorized bikes that have become so popular in the city right now. > > > > Go to any bar, coffee shop, or yoga studio in the Mission and you'll > > > > have your pick of non-secured Brooks saddles and Phil wheels. But, > > > > this is no real security solution, obviously. > > > > > > I guess this is a long-winded way of saying that your instincts are > > > > right, a cable-lock-only approach is likely to be a problem. I don't > > > > think you have to cover up the logo, but lock down with a u-lock > > > > anything you don't won't to risk being taken, and remove any item you > > > > positively don't want to be stolen. Other than that, you weigh the > > > > risks and take your chances. Of course, that advice probably fits > most > > > > urban areas. For this one, I think after a month or two of being out > > > > and about, you'll find your comfort zone in the areas you frequent. > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > Lee > > > > > > On Nov 10, 11:00 pm, jose <jose.cor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi All. I just moved to Oakland (Rockridge) from Houston and I'm > > > > > curious what peoples opinions are parking your Rivs here are. > > > > > > > In Houston, I felt fairly comfortable with locking up my Atlantis > with > > > > > bags/lights/brooks onboard with just a cable lock during the day. > No > > > > > one there pays too much attention to an old looking slow bike with > a > > > > > bunch of crap on it (ha!). > > > > > > > Here I see only beater-bikes with no bags/lights/brooks parked on > the > > > > > street. > > > > > > > So I'm wondering how secure I should go. Never leave lights on the > > > > > bike? Cover up the Rivendell logos? Get one of those locking seat > > > > > post clamp things? I realize that no bike on the street is ever > safe, > > > > > but I'd like get a sense of what the probability of getting my > stuff > > > > > jacked here is. > > > > > > > Oh, and I'm asking for during the day coffee and errand type trips. > > > > > For BART parking and late-night pub crawls I just bought a $50 > > > > > craigslist special, but I would really like to be on my Atlantis as > > > > > much as I can be. > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > -- J. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > <rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > David > > Redlands, CA > > > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > > probably benefit more from > > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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