Lee, what are your thoughts on the seat tube lock point vs. rear wheel lock
point (aka Sheldon technique<http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html>)?

I typically do the Sheldon, but have always wondered if it's good enough...

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Lee <leec...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just to follow-up, I took some pics of my locked up QB outside of my
> lab. Note that my workplace is secluded, remote, and well-trafficked
> by people, and it's on a pretty secluded campus with hundreds of
> barely locked bikes everywhere. So, my work lock and cable are less
> beefy than their counterparts at home, which I use when running around
> San Francisco.
>
> The pics:
> http://tinyurl.com/286ywhb
> http://tinyurl.com/2bymylj
>
> Best,
> Lee
>
> On Nov 10, 11:39 pm, Lee <leec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Jose. I live in San Francisco and frequent the East and South Bay
> > areas regularly. Here's my two cents: Definitely do not rely on a
> > cable lock in the Bay Area. Of course, thieves will target high-end
> > bikes and components, but I think even more so, they target weak
> > locks--cable locks in particular. Ironically, in this way, cable locks
> > act as an attractant in my opinion, regardless of the bike. On any
> > given weekend morning I can walk the streets near my apartment and
> > find part of a cable lock on the sidewalk or in the gutter.
> >
> > I ride my Quickbeam as my daily bike, and I do lock it up outside
> > during the work day, as well as out in the city during the weekend and
> > nights. It's outfitted with a B-17 Special and either a Phil hub or
> > Shimano dynamo hub front wheel. In the latter case, I'll also have a
> > B&M Cyo mounted to a small front rack. And, I usually have a tool
> > pouch hung from the saddle and a SuperFlash mounted on the seat stay.
> > My locking solution is a heavy cable through both wheels and the
> > saddle rails, which is then locked along with the frame to a bike rack
> > with a Kryptonite u-lock. I think it's the Evolution. I usually take
> > my tool pouch if it's night. During the day, depending on the area, I
> > may leave it on my bike. I always leave the SuperFlash and Cyo on my
> > bike regardless of time or place.
> >
> > The only thing I feel really secure about this set-up is the frame and
> > u-lock situation. I take my chances with the heavy cable, hoping that
> > a bike thief won't try to get through that just to get my Brooks or a
> > Phil hub. One thing that works in my favor is the number of nicely
> > accessorized bikes that have become so popular in the city right now.
> > Go to any bar, coffee shop, or yoga studio in the Mission and you'll
> > have your pick of non-secured Brooks saddles and Phil wheels. But,
> > this is no real security solution, obviously.
> >
> > I guess this is a long-winded way of saying that your instincts are
> > right, a cable-lock-only approach is likely to be a problem. I don't
> > think you have to cover up the logo, but lock down with a u-lock
> > anything you don't won't to risk being taken, and remove any item you
> > positively don't want to be stolen. Other than that, you weigh the
> > risks and take your chances. Of course, that advice probably fits most
> > urban areas. For this one, I think after a month or two of being out
> > and about, you'll find your comfort zone in the areas you frequent.
> >
> > Good luck!
> > Lee
> >
> > On Nov 10, 11:00 pm, jose <jose.cor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All. I just moved to Oakland (Rockridge) from Houston and I'm
> > > curious what peoples opinions are parking your Rivs here are.
> >
> > > In Houston, I felt fairly comfortable with locking up my Atlantis with
> > > bags/lights/brooks onboard with just a cable lock during the day. No
> > > one there pays too much attention to an old looking slow bike with a
> > > bunch of crap on it (ha!).
> >
> > > Here I see only beater-bikes with no bags/lights/brooks parked on the
> > > street.
> >
> > > So I'm wondering how secure I should go.  Never leave lights on the
> > > bike?  Cover up the Rivendell logos? Get one of those locking seat
> > > post clamp things? I realize that no bike on the street is ever safe,
> > > but I'd like get a sense of what the probability of getting my stuff
> > > jacked here is.
> >
> > > Oh, and I'm asking for during the day coffee and errand type trips.
> > > For BART parking and late-night pub crawls I just bought a $50
> > > craigslist special, but I would really like to be on my Atlantis as
> > > much as I can be.
> >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > -- J.
>
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