I've been using the Kuhl Renegrade shorts, they strech well and have
nice pockets. They make the same item in a pant.
They are made for climbing and look pretty normal.

~Mike~

On Oct 3, 8:46 pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I recently came across this company's website:http://pistard.cc
>
> I have not tried any of their products yet, so cannot comment on how
> well made they are. But they do have an understated, stylish look.
> Some might even say their stuff is Rapha-esque...
>
> On Oct 3, 8:33 pm, Horace <max...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.rapha.cc/rapha-trousers
>
> > On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 6:34 PM, jim_OLP <j...@landoloons.com> wrote:
> > > Every year when it starts to get cold, I undertake a futile search for
> > > cycling pants that don't look like something from the ballet or the
> > > circus.  I mean pants, not lycra tights.  And not rain pants, which
> > > tend to be way too baggy and - if they're Rivendll - too orange.  I
> > > want nylon pants that block the wind but are trim enough so they don't
> > > flutter in the wind, and will stay out of the way of the chain,
> > > preferablly with some sort of cinch around the ankle.  I need pockets
> > > too.
>
> > > Wool would be great, but I know that's not going to happen.
>
> > > I'd buy the MUSA pants, but I can't do the blue crotch.  Just too
> > > conspicuous. "Ooooh, are those bicycling pants? Where did you get
> > > them?"
>
> > > It's hard to Google on this without getting 50 pages of black spandex
> > > tights.
>
> > > Does anyone else makes something just like the MUSA pants, but without
> > > the 2-tone color scheme?
>
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