The way I see it (and i don't own a saddlebag bigger than a banana bag [yet]), is that a saddlebag has the advantage of being there in case you need it for impromptu shopping/adding of gear. I doubt too many of us ride around with empty or near empty panniers unless we are planning to pick something up along the way. On a short tour/s24o an added benefit may be saving the weight of a rack,(plus perhaps the fact that all the gear is already on the bike) but it seems to me that the better weight distribution of panniers make up for that, plus the ease with which they can be removed. Which leads me to a question: do you take your saddlebag off to load it for an s24o?
Gernot On Sep 13, 7:19 pm, Montclair BobbyB <montclairbob...@gmail.com> wrote: > General question for saddle bag users: > > How does use of a saddlebag setup compare to using a rack and panniers > (which is what I have always used)? I know there's a physics part, > where a seat bag fully-loaded is going to place the weight up higher, > versus panniers having the weight distributed lower on opposite sides > of the axle... > > But in practical terms (aside from the aesthetics of a saddle bag), > what is the advantage of one over the other for, say a S24O trip? > > Thanks, > BB > > On Sep 13, 12:35 am, Rob Harrison <robha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Thanks Stewart, Mike and Forrest, that is all immensely helpful. I'm > > moving in the ultralight direction, so my gear is getting more compact > > as well as getting lighter. A Sackville Medium and a Platrack could be > > just the ticket for S24Os, and for credit card touring I substitute > > the Lil' Loafer I got from Gino for the Platrack in front, sort of > > like Mike's other setup. > > > Rob in Seattle > > > On Sep 12, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Stuart Fletcher wrote: > > > > Rob, everyone: > > > > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:35, Rob Harrison <robha...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > >> Did you ever go camping with the Medium? If so, was it big enough? > > >> If you > > >> fill it up, does it sag enough to require support, rack or bagman or > > >> similar? > > > > I can't speak specifically to the SaddleSack Medium, but I camp with a > > > Carradice Nelson Longflap + a medium Wald basket and that works well > > > for me. The capacity on the Carradice is quite similar to the medium > > > SaddleSack. Here are the capacities in one place for perusal: > > > > Peter White lists the capacity of a Nelson Longflap at 19.6 liters > > > (unclear if that's with the flap extended or not... I almost never > > > have to extend the flap for a summer overnight camping load). > > > > The Rivendell site lists the capacity of the medium SaddleSack as: > > > "Not bulged: 18.6 liters; Bulged but not ridiculous: 23.2 liters; The > > > pocket adds about .82 liters". > > > > So the capacities are in the same ballpark. In fact it appears the > > > SaddleSack can hold a bit more than the Carradice. > > > > I'm a light-ish packer(*), and how people pack can obviously vary > > > widely so this could be an apples-oranges comparison, but the basket + > > > Carradice combo has worked great for me on overnighters this summer, > > > and I don't see any reason the same setup couldn't go for 2 or 3 > > > nights (or more). If I didn't have the Carradice I would definitely > > > consider getting the medium sized SaddleSack with commuting AND > > > camping in mind. > > > > Don't know if this data point will help you, but thought I'd chime in > > > with my experience. > > > > Stuart Fletcher > > > Seattle, WA > > > > *: For a bit more reference, my most current packing scheme has > > > sleeping bag up front in the basket (it's a Wiggy's that Rivendell > > > sells in a smaller stuffsack than comes w/ the bag), tent lashed to > > > top of Carradice (a Tarptent Contrail, so it's nice & small/light), > > > and sleeping pad under seat/in front of Bagman rack (Thermarest Neoair > > > -- anything bigger wouldn't fit there). Small bag of personal stuff > > > goes in basket with sleeping bag and all else is in Carradice, > > > including a Trangia cooking kit w/ the large-ish (IMO) stand and > > > windscreen. So bulk isn't as minimized as it could be, but some work > > > has gone toward that goal. Hope this info helps. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > > > bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en > > > .- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
