Thanks Stewart, Mike and Forrest, that is all immensely helpful. I'm
moving in the ultralight direction, so my gear is getting more compact
as well as getting lighter. A Sackville Medium and a Platrack could be
just the ticket for S24Os, and for credit card touring I substitute
the Lil' Loafer I got from Gino for the Platrack in front, sort of
like Mike's other setup.
Rob in Seattle
On Sep 12, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Stuart Fletcher wrote:
Rob, everyone:
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:35, Rob Harrison <robha...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Did you ever go camping with the Medium? If so, was it big enough?
If you
fill it up, does it sag enough to require support, rack or bagman or
similar?
I can't speak specifically to the SaddleSack Medium, but I camp with a
Carradice Nelson Longflap + a medium Wald basket and that works well
for me. The capacity on the Carradice is quite similar to the medium
SaddleSack. Here are the capacities in one place for perusal:
Peter White lists the capacity of a Nelson Longflap at 19.6 liters
(unclear if that's with the flap extended or not... I almost never
have to extend the flap for a summer overnight camping load).
The Rivendell site lists the capacity of the medium SaddleSack as:
"Not bulged: 18.6 liters; Bulged but not ridiculous: 23.2 liters; The
pocket adds about .82 liters".
So the capacities are in the same ballpark. In fact it appears the
SaddleSack can hold a bit more than the Carradice.
I'm a light-ish packer(*), and how people pack can obviously vary
widely so this could be an apples-oranges comparison, but the basket +
Carradice combo has worked great for me on overnighters this summer,
and I don't see any reason the same setup couldn't go for 2 or 3
nights (or more). If I didn't have the Carradice I would definitely
consider getting the medium sized SaddleSack with commuting AND
camping in mind.
Don't know if this data point will help you, but thought I'd chime in
with my experience.
Stuart Fletcher
Seattle, WA
*: For a bit more reference, my most current packing scheme has
sleeping bag up front in the basket (it's a Wiggy's that Rivendell
sells in a smaller stuffsack than comes w/ the bag), tent lashed to
top of Carradice (a Tarptent Contrail, so it's nice & small/light),
and sleeping pad under seat/in front of Bagman rack (Thermarest Neoair
-- anything bigger wouldn't fit there). Small bag of personal stuff
goes in basket with sleeping bag and all else is in Carradice,
including a Trangia cooking kit w/ the large-ish (IMO) stand and
windscreen. So bulk isn't as minimized as it could be, but some work
has gone toward that goal. Hope this info helps.
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