On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Bob Cooper
<robertcoo...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> The top tube should really be measured from a point in space that is
> directly above the bottom bracket spindle to the center of the headset
> lock nut and level with the lock nut.


I think that's an important measurement to know, as is the opposite -
the setback from that point to the top of the seat post, but those are
really just pieces of the overall reach measurement. If i understand
Grant's post correctly, his approach puts the priority on proper
saddle position first, and the TT length is simply whatever it needs
to be to get the bars within the range of adjustability that bars and
stem will cover. If you know your preferred reach and bar height, the
bars you want to use and desired stem length, the TT length is
naturally derived from the earlier decisions.

This is a custom frame drawing, of course, which is why deciding the
TT length ahead of time is meaningless. When shopping for an
already-built frame, it IS important to know your reach, and be able
to take those frame measurements to decide if it will be within the
range of reasonable seatpost and stem adjustability to get the fit you
want. I think what Grant is saying is that the TT number can't be
looked at in an isolated way when ST angle, HT angle and bar height
also affect reach.

-- 
Bill Connell
St. Paul, MN

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