Are the rings worn and while the CX70 allowed you to get by "normally", the 
105 does not ? Different cage dimensions and all that. 

On Tuesday, May 26, 2026 at 4:04:08 PM UTC-4 Tim wrote:

> I changed the FD on my 650b rando bike (my only non-Riv). It's set up with 
> Ultegra brifters with a Rene Herse double crank. The old CX-70 FD wasn't 
> working well anymore so I swapped to a shimano 105 FD. The derailer shifts 
> much better but now when I shift from big ring to small ring the chain now 
> falls between the chainrings. It did this immediately upon my first ride so 
> I took it to my LBS thinking I had installed the derailer wrong, although I 
> kinda mostly know what I'm doing. When I went back they told me that my 
> crank was bent. The mechanic said he even asked his boss and he agreed. He 
> went on to explain to me that the Herse crank only had 3 bolts connecting 
> to the crank where most cranks had 5 and he insinuated that the RH was 
> weaker because of this, and that it was one of the bolt "tabs" that had 
> bent. . 
>
> I was very skeptical as the problem had never happened in the 10 years 
> I've had this bike (It's a custom and came to me mostly assembled) and I 
> have never crashed the bike. I brought the bike home to remove the crank 
> and disassemble to check it out as much as i could. I removed the arms from 
> the bike, removed the chainrings, cleaned the crank and reassembled. Th 
> chainrings seemed flat when I laid them on a flat surface. I reinstalled 
> the crank and on the first downshift on the bike stand the chain fell 
> between the chainrings. 
>
> I emailed Rene Herse and their answer was that you can't bend a crank by 
> pedaling it and that the FD is the introduced variable that has caused the 
> problem. I must say that I completely agree that the only change made is 
> the one that caused this problem but I don't at all understand how or why 
> the derailer would immediately cause this problem. So therefore I don't 
> know what to do to fix it. 
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Peace,
> Tim
>

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