Note that, all else being equal, a bigger wheel will give you a smoother
ride and roll faster, so a 622 BA wheel does not lose as much to a smaller
but lighter 584 wheel with a more supple tire than otherwise might be the
case. The overall diameter of an inflated 60 mm BA is indeed 29 inches.

Further, a 35 mm 622 wheel might indeed be as smooth as a 40 mm 584 wheel
thanks to its bigger size.

Note further that even the "Liteskin" version of the 60 mm 622 Ba weighs 800
grams. It is ponderous.

So, the next question is, what sort of riding? BAs are overkill for anything
except huge potholes, rough cobble, tree roots and sand. If you want off
road, get a 29er.

If you want rough but not torn up pavement, the next question is:

How fat a 622 tire can your current frame accept? If it can take a 35, then
why bother with a 40 mm 584? What you gain in width you lose in diameter.

AFAICT, the sole advantage of 650b is putting reasonably fat tires on a 622
frame that can take only sub 1" tires.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:23 PM, mr.trout <[email protected]> wrote:

> so the decision would be to either convert a current frame to 650b, or
> buy a 29er for the BAs.
>
> my understanding is that the benefits of both 650b and BAs is they're
> soft but quick.
>
> I guess what I'm wondering is if I want a Big Apple-ish smooth ride
> quality, is a 650b conversion gonna give it to me, or should I go all
> the way and get a 29er frame?
>
> On Jul 19, 3:35 pm, "colin p. cummings" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > I ran 559 big apples (50mm width) on my bleriot after running 650b for
> > over a year, and I really enjoyed the ride.  At about 50 psi the
> > apples are soft but quick and I really dug the all black look.
> >
> > colin cummings
> > amarillo, tx
> >
> > On Jul 19, 8:31 am, "mr.trout" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I am contemplating doing the big change over. Can anyone please
> > > explain the difference in ride qualities in something like Big Apples
> > > vs. a nice pair of 650b tires? Demi-balloon vs balloon? Would the 650b
> > > tires feel a little quicker?
> > > Thanks.
>
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