I completely agree with Joel (and others) about riding a good bike for
commuting. Buy the best bike you can afford, and then really earn it.
Try to use it up. Remember that "best" and "beater" are relative
terms. My best bike is someone's beater bike. My beater bike is better
than some peoples' best bike.

My therapy suggestions: Remove the tweed bags and sell them on the
list. Cut the twine off the chainstay. Do a bad job. Take the bike
mountain biking with a sack lunch (dang, shouldn't have sold those
bags!) and get it dirty. Find a feather, and stick it on the bars. If
the parking garage is too worrisome, lock up in front of a cafe a few
blocks away and walk. Ask around if there's a safer place to park, or
a storage area in the building, since any bike you ride is a bike
you'll be sorry to lose.

 philip
97128

On Jul 8, 3:06 pm, gregb <gbberk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry for being so vague - that was the "newbie" part - I will take
> some pics, and some measurements list components etc and post them
> up.  It is an All Rounder capital "A" capital "R" and now that I read
> it - it is 26" wheels.  I have only been lurking for a bit, but I
> think you would say it is "riv'd" out with the brooks saddle, Nitto
> racks etc... The guy I bought it from practically carried it like a
> baby instead of wheeling it over - that just added to my neurosis...
>
> Thanks for the input so far... William may be onto it - if it is worth
> either way more or way less than I paid for it that would probably
> help me know what to do with it! I did do a search of the boards and
> did not see any of these for sale which means one of three things:
>
> 1.
>
> On Jul 8, 2:41 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > ...my comment to sell it, and the low end of my tongue-in-cheek range
> > of value was based on the assumption that '27" wheel all rounder',
> > with lowercase 'a' and lowercase 'r' indicated that the original
> > poster was using 'all rounder' as a descriptive phrase, meaning it is
> > an old (mid-80's or earlier) lugged steel sport touring bike of some
> > sort that really does have 27" wheels.  If it really is a Rivendell
> > All-Rounder, and presumably does have regular sized wheels, then yeah,
> > keep it and ride it.  I agree with the consensus that people should
> > disabuse themselves of the notion that there is such a thing as a bike
> > that is 'too nice to ride' or at least 'too nice to commute on'.
>
> > On Jul 8, 2:26 pm, jamison brosseau <jamison.bross...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > I have an A Homer Hilsen, Atlantis, and on monday ups willing a
> > > Bombadil.  I live in Brooklyn NY and commute everywhere by bike.  I
> > > only have these three bikes, I lock them on NYC streets everyday.  My
> > > A Homer is only a couple months old, but already has plenty of dings
> > > and scrapes.  The parts on these bikes are faily typical riv stuff,
> > > but with racks and baskets.
> > > Nothing would be too expensive to replace.  A New paint job is only
> > > about $300, so no biggie there either.  Renters or homeowners ins.
> > > would cover replacement cost if stolen.
> > > be happy you have this bike, don't sell it to replace with a long haul
> > > trucker.  ride it everyday, lock it up where you want.  It is only a
> > > bike, after all, and no fun if you dont use it.
> > > im sure if you start locking it up all the time and getting some
> > > beausage on it you will be able to get used to the idea of enjoying
> > > it.
> > > stop worrying.
> > > congratulations on owning a great bike.
> > > jamison
>
> > > On Jul 8, 4:36 pm, gregb <gbberk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hello my friends - I think I have a problem... Here is the scenario -
> > > > I just sort of stumbled upon a very well preserved all rounder...
> > > > nicely bespoke from the  tweed bags to the twine wrapped chain stay,
> > > > leather mud-guards and brass bell.  I of course bought it because I
> > > > couldn't resist :)  I think it is a touch too small for me, but it is
> > > > a really sweet bike.
>
> > > > Here is the problem:
>
> > > > I commute by bicycle from the 'burbs to downtown Seattle.  I ride in
> > > > the rain, and I lock up my bike in the parking garage of a building
> > > > full of people who are bound to deteriorate my beautifully lugged
> > > > baby.  I was actually shopping for a used Surly LHT (Sort of the same
> > > > idea as a Riv, just without the class!) when this lovely bike crossed
> > > > my path.
>
> > > > So - I think I paid a pretty reasonable amount for the bike as
> > > > equipped, but I am thinking maybe I should post it up for sale to
> > > > someone who can treat her a bit better and buy a beater.  I don't know
> > > > what it is "really" worth or what data the community would need.
> > > > (Pictures of course would help...) It has middling components in good
> > > > condition but the frame etc. is nearly perfect.  Or was when I parked
> > > > it this morning :(
>
> > > > So - I guess my questions are:  about what is a 27" wheel  all rounder
> > > > well outfitted and good condition worth?  Am I crazy?  Should I just
> > > > ride this thing and not worry about it?  Anyone know a good "bike
> > > > therapist"?  Anyone want to give her a good home? (and buy it of
> > > > course...)
>
> > > > Thanks in advance for your comments.
>
> > > > G

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