Wow! The size of a short NBA player :) On Friday, April 18, 2025 at 10:21:41 AM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
> Leah, my son’s limeolive 55cm Platy is the same year as your mermaid, and > I measured it from tire edge to tire edge front to back at 6ft 4 in without > tilting the handlebars, with Soma Shikoro 48mm tires on Atlas rims. I doubt > your mermaid one is any shorter than a 52cm Clem, especially if your sister > has one from a while ago. I was measuring to give my sister an idea if the > one she is hoping to buy this summer will fit in her bike shed. > > On Friday, April 18, 2025 at 7:17:57 AM UTC-7 Paul S wrote: > >> I live in a 4th floor walkup in NYC and a Clem would just not be >> workable. I actually own a 59 Clem L that lives with family out on the >> west coast where it makes more sense, but getting those long chainstays >> around the corners on the stairs each day would be a real pain. If I had a >> bike room/basement/low floor apartment I think the Clem would work great in >> the city and would love to ride it here. >> >> I currently ride a 58 Hunq for about half my commutes and a ~60 cm steel >> 650b conversion for the rest. The extra length and weight of the Hunq is >> noticeable going up my stairs, but is manageable. I think if I had to pick >> a modern (upright) Riv for my specific commuting circumstances, it would be >> a 60 Platy, which would hopefully be short enough to be manageable. >> >> Paul >> BK, NYC >> >> On Friday, April 18, 2025 at 9:15:00 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >> wrote: >> >>> An Appaloosa is pretty stout…might be a lot to lug up those stairs… >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 18, 2025, at 9:10 AM, Maeve Gately <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I am in NYC and thinking about getting a Riv--probably a Homer, Apa or >>> Roadini. Any other city owners have these and find them manageable? I have >>> a four floor walkup with narrow stairs so that's my main concern >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, April 18, 2025 at 8:35:44 AM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote: >>> >>>> Although I am not a big city dweller I am faced with similar size >>>> constraints with my big 65cm Clem and a small 2bedroom condo with shared >>>> basement storage. The Clem is great for the open road/trails and my local >>>> riding but too big to bring anywhere by car and cumbersome to get in/out >>>> of >>>> the apartment and/or basement storage. Fortunately, I get to just park it >>>> via kickstand on the open basement floor alongside my other large bikes in >>>> the locked basement with enough space to wheel it around but still need to >>>> navigate the turn through the door and stairs, which is doable but >>>> noticeably more challenging than my smaller frames. >>>> >>>> Any chance they could rotate the bars 180deg to turn the wheel/fork and >>>> shorten the wheelbase for parking? Likely depends on >>>> fender/rack/bar/cables whether this is possible but maybe just enough to >>>> better fit the racks? >>>> >>>> I do recall the Clems being intended as less precious lock up Rivs but >>>> still think the design was more reflective of their local trails and >>>> somewhat of an interpretation on Grants solution or substitute to old MTB >>>> conversions with Riv sourced parts rather than ‘city’ bikes. >>>> >>>> That was part of my initial interest in the Clem… a large and properly >>>> fitting replacement to my old rigid mtb I kept trying to update and >>>> sinking >>>> funds into parts. Rather than replacing it, it supplemented it and I >>>> still >>>> keep the smaller 90’s mtb around and is my bring anywhere bike being >>>> easier >>>> to transport. >>>> >>>> Hope it all works out! >>>> >>>> Brian >>>> Lawrence NJ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, April 17, 2025, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My sister lives in NYC. She has a 52 cm Clem L and her husband has a >>>>> 59 cm Clem L. They just bought a lovely apartment and it has a luxurious >>>>> bike room, complete with Saris racks to hold everyone’s bikes. This is >>>>> the >>>>> model of rack in the bike room, seen here on Saris’ website: >>>>> https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/8-bike-rack-double-decker-72-w-x-63-d >>>>> >>>>> She just moved the bikes in today, and when she went to park them, >>>>> they are, you guessed it, way too long. They do not fit in the beautiful, >>>>> provided Saris rack; the rear wheels stick out into the aisle. >>>>> >>>>> The only thing we can think to do is get some Voile straps (she >>>>> ordered some today) and try to rig them up so they don’t tip over. They >>>>> owned these Clems while living in a different city, and space was not at >>>>> a >>>>> premium there. She said had she known they would live in NYC she would >>>>> have >>>>> given her Clems to our brother and his wife and started over with a >>>>> shorter >>>>> Rivendell model for NYC. >>>>> >>>>> I hate to see her have to do that, though I agree it is maybe the best >>>>> option. But I was thinking, I KNOW there are a lot of Riv owners in NYC >>>>> and >>>>> other populous cities in the US. Who owns Clems and how are you managing >>>>> them in the city? They don’t fit on buses or Amtrak. They probably don’t >>>>> play well in your building’s bike racks. How do you live with your big >>>>> long >>>>> Clems? What are your secrets? >>>>> >>>>> I have thought of offering her my mermaid Platypus. The wheelbase of a >>>>> 52 Clem is, I think, 52 inches. And the 55 Platy is, I think, 47.5 >>>>> inches. >>>>> That is just so much more manageable. If her husband got a Platy (he >>>>> loves >>>>> a mixte so he doesn’t rip his suit pants swinging a leg over), it’d have >>>>> to >>>>> be the 60, and I don’t know how long that one is. 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