Alfonso, I am tempted by the Atlantis. Luckily for my bank account I am usually able to talk myself out of buying a given Riv by the time they actually go on presale and once they're sold out it is beyond my control :).
On Tuesday, February 18, 2025 at 3:35:24 PM UTC-8 der_amerikanische_freund wrote: > *Tyler*, thanks for your clarification. I'm with you, standover is my > main concern as I plan to ride my Atlantis off road and it's very likely I > will have to dismount or touch the ground occasionally so I'd like to look > after my pubic bone's health! Are you planning on purchasing an Atlantis > this year then? > > *Garth*, I see your point, it's a very valid one. I don't think Riv > offers custom (re-)painting anymore (I remember asking Will about it some > time ago). If one was to use a third party to repaint their stock model, > would you be able to get decals from Riv? > > And in order not to go too much off-topic on *Mike in BK*'s original > post, I also agree with Garth that the Atlantis would be overkill for the > kind of intented riding. A Sam Hillborne looks to me like the best option > as you can still load it for light touring and the ocasional weekend > adventure. > > > El martes, 18 de febrero de 2025 a las 21:46:36 UTC, trya...@gmail.com > escribió: > >> A 55cm Atlantis has a slightly longer top tube and slightly shorter >> standover height compared to a 57cm Hillborne. That means either would work >> size wise except the Atlantis is much stouter and can accommodate much >> larger tires, as can the Appaloosa. >> On Tuesday, February 18, 2025 at 11:49:09 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote: >> >>> Frame specs and fitting trumps the paint color every day of the week. >>> The paint and all the parts can be changed, but not the frame itself. Lots >>> of people have opted to get their stock Riv repainted at the time of >>> ordering. In regards to the Atlantis, what it originally was in 1999 is >>> long gone, so any connection to the later version is only the paint. It's >>> been altered so may times I've lost count. I think it's overkill for what >>> Mike in BK stated anyways. The Sam or Roadini sounds like a best option, >>> given it fits you as intended. Have it painted the Russian green/blue of >>> the Atlantis if you like. >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2025 at 1:35:48 PM UTC-5 karl...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> It depends.... I was sized at Riv HQ with a 58cm Atlantis but with 26" >>>> wheels for sturdy loaded touring. (no clue about my PBH, but 5' 10" with a >>>> 29" inseam and a long torso), >>>> >>>> Love the size, but had it been 700 wheels, I would have been put down a >>>> size. Now that I getting older, I am looking for a replacement with a >>>> Platypus for a step through convenience option. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 10:26 AM Tyler Ryan <trya...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Alfonso, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, I am 6'1" and 89 pbh. I should have been more clear. Upon doing >>>>> some more double, triple checking- I do think the 55 Atlantis would be >>>>> the >>>>> right call. I am mostly concerned with standover height and top tube >>>>> length. >>>>> >>>>> Tyler >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2025 at 9:08:20 AM UTC-8 >>>>> der_amerikanische_freund wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Tyler, do you mean roughly the same size as me (88 PBH and 6’1) or >>>>>> the original poster? >>>>>> >>>>>> Double checking the geo chart, at 88 PBH I’d be completely outside >>>>>> the size 59 recommended ranges (starting at 89.5cm) so I guess I should >>>>>> stop worrying about it. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, as investing in a Riv is not small task, one can’t help but >>>>>> worry about every detail. My worry then moves to whether an Appaloosa 57 >>>>>> would be an even better fit. Problem being I don’t fancy the Appaloosa’s >>>>>> colorways too much. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would a 57 Appaloosa fit so much better than a 55 Atlantis that it’d >>>>>> be stupid to buy the latter just based on looks? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for taking part in the conversation >>>>>> >>>>>> El El mar, 18 feb 2025 a las 16:20, Tyler Ryan <trya...@gmail.com> >>>>>> escribió: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm roughly the same size and I'm looking at the geometry chart and >>>>>>> I don't know how I could go any bigger than the 55. My current biggest >>>>>>> bike >>>>>>> has a 60cm top tube which is great for using swept back bars(albatross) >>>>>>> with a "normal" length stem, 10cm. This very nearly puts drop bars out >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> reach for me on the 55cm which isn't a huge issue as I have other drop >>>>>>> bar >>>>>>> bikes that are shorter, smaller. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am concerned about spending 2000$ on a bike frame and getting the >>>>>>> wrong size so this is top of mind at the moment. It's not like there >>>>>>> are a >>>>>>> ton of Rivs around I can test out, even in a big city- I guess at least >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> know what I like. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 11:49:15 AM UTC-8 >>>>>>> der_amerikanische_freund wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interesting topic as I'm also seriously considering buying one of >>>>>>>> the next Atlantises. I'm 6'1" and 88 PBH and, before I read this >>>>>>>> conversation, I was quite set on the 55, as I will mainly use it with >>>>>>>> knobby tires for off-road riding so I want to have decent standover >>>>>>>> height >>>>>>>> if I need to put my feet on the ground when riding technical-ish >>>>>>>> trails. I >>>>>>>> do wonder now if this reasoning is valid or whether I'd be better off >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> a size 59. I have always been put off the 59 since I'd be outside >>>>>>>> their PBH >>>>>>>> range recommendation (minimum 89.5cm). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> El domingo, 16 de febrero de 2025 a las 7:57:12 UTC, Mike in BK >>>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm 5'11", so longish inseam for my height and I don't have your >>>>>>>>> reach. The Atlantis's long top tube only makes sense for me with >>>>>>>>> sweptback >>>>>>>>> bars. My dilemma isn't will I love the comfort of that, it's more >>>>>>>>> will it >>>>>>>>> feel good on spirited 2 hour road rides. Agreed about the Clem, and >>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>> standover wasn't an issue with the Atlantis I would grab a 59cm. Like >>>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>> Riv lovers, I've never been on a bike that I could get my bars level >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> my saddle without a ton of quill stem extending from the too short >>>>>>>>> head >>>>>>>>> tube. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 15, 2025 at 8:15:51 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You mentioned that your PBH is 87.5, but not how tall you are. I >>>>>>>>>> dont mean to dismiss Vince's expertise and opinion, bt I think >>>>>>>>>> that's an >>>>>>>>>> important part of the equation if you're looking for an "ideal" fit. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My PBH is 87.0, and I'm 6'-2". So long torso, short legs, and >>>>>>>>>> difficult to fit. If you're shorter and more normally proportioned >>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>>> me, I probably wouldn't hesitate on the 55. Conversely, if you're >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> similar height to me and have a 87.5 PBH, I also wouldn't worry >>>>>>>>>> about the >>>>>>>>>> 59 working. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have a gen 1 Clem in 59, that's very close to the newest 59 >>>>>>>>>> Atlantis in terms of fit, and I would NEVER opt for a smaller size. >>>>>>>>>> Standover is tight, but comfort and ride quality trum everything. >>>>>>>>>> Even >>>>>>>>>> now, the top tube is quite a bit on the short side - which would >>>>>>>>>> push me >>>>>>>>>> away from the 55. FWIW, I use large 2.3 tires, which further reduce >>>>>>>>>> standover, too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Atlantis is funny. It was the bike that originally drew me >>>>>>>>>> to Rivendell, but I have ALWAYS been berween sizes so, as much as >>>>>>>>>> I've >>>>>>>>>> wanted one, it's never quite worked out. (Actually, there was a >>>>>>>>>> 56cm 650b >>>>>>>>>> briefly, which I almost bought, but decided it wasn't perfect.) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've been thinking about this next batch of Atlanti too, but >>>>>>>>>> think the smart call for me is to wait until the next batch of 57 >>>>>>>>>> Appaloosa. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, February 15, 2025 at 10:54:28 AM UTC-7 Mike in BK >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The sirens are really luring me to want to grab an Atlantis this >>>>>>>>>>> offering. This is irrational on my part for a few reasons. First >>>>>>>>>>> being that >>>>>>>>>>> the type of riding the Atlantis is made for is the least amount of >>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>> riding type here in Brooklyn. I'm mostly stretching out doing laps >>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>> park. But I aspire to "adventure" riding and can get out of the >>>>>>>>>>> city on >>>>>>>>>>> occasion. Second would be that the sizing gives me pause. I spoke >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> Vince at RBW and he was emphatic that 55cm was my size with my >>>>>>>>>>> 87.5" PBH. I >>>>>>>>>>> agree that the 59cm would be a real high standover and just feel >>>>>>>>>>> unnecessarily big. But jumping all the way down to 55cm would have >>>>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>> showing a lot of post and the 61.8cm stack height will also have me >>>>>>>>>>> extending the stem quite high. Lastly, and rather importantly, this >>>>>>>>>>> will be >>>>>>>>>>> my first new, not pre-owned, frameset in decades. To make it work >>>>>>>>>>> I'll need >>>>>>>>>>> to sell off some bikes and parts, which means I need to find a Riv >>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>> overlaps the majority of riding I do and the riding I aspire to do, >>>>>>>>>>> namely >>>>>>>>>>> moderate trail riding and gravel. The Sam would be perfect for all >>>>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>>>> 57cm should fit like a glove. A 57cm Roadini would be a candidate >>>>>>>>>>> as well, >>>>>>>>>>> as its off-Roadini capabilities were recently discussed here. >>>>>>>>>>> But....the >>>>>>>>>>> Atlantis! 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