Frame specs and fitting trumps the paint color every day of the week. The paint and all the parts can be changed, but not the frame itself. Lots of people have opted to get their stock Riv repainted at the time of ordering. In regards to the Atlantis, what it originally was in 1999 is long gone, so any connection to the later version is only the paint. It's been altered so may times I've lost count. I think it's overkill for what Mike in BK stated anyways. The Sam or Roadini sounds like a best option, given it fits you as intended. Have it painted the Russian green/blue of the Atlantis if you like.
On Tuesday, February 18, 2025 at 1:35:48 PM UTC-5 karl...@gmail.com wrote: > > It depends.... I was sized at Riv HQ with a 58cm Atlantis but with 26" > wheels for sturdy loaded touring. (no clue about my PBH, but 5' 10" with a > 29" inseam and a long torso), > > Love the size, but had it been 700 wheels, I would have been put down a > size. Now that I getting older, I am looking for a replacement with a > Platypus for a step through convenience option. > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 10:26 AM Tyler Ryan <trya...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Alfonso, >> >> Yes, I am 6'1" and 89 pbh. I should have been more clear. Upon doing some >> more double, triple checking- I do think the 55 Atlantis would be the right >> call. I am mostly concerned with standover height and top tube length. >> >> Tyler >> >> On Tuesday, February 18, 2025 at 9:08:20 AM UTC-8 >> der_amerikanische_freund wrote: >> >>> Tyler, do you mean roughly the same size as me (88 PBH and 6’1) or the >>> original poster? >>> >>> Double checking the geo chart, at 88 PBH I’d be completely outside the >>> size 59 recommended ranges (starting at 89.5cm) so I guess I should stop >>> worrying about it. >>> >>> However, as investing in a Riv is not small task, one can’t help but >>> worry about every detail. My worry then moves to whether an Appaloosa 57 >>> would be an even better fit. Problem being I don’t fancy the Appaloosa’s >>> colorways too much. >>> >>> Would a 57 Appaloosa fit so much better than a 55 Atlantis that it’d be >>> stupid to buy the latter just based on looks? >>> >>> Thanks for taking part in the conversation >>> >>> El El mar, 18 feb 2025 a las 16:20, Tyler Ryan <trya...@gmail.com> >>> escribió: >>> >>>> I'm roughly the same size and I'm looking at the geometry chart and I >>>> don't know how I could go any bigger than the 55. My current biggest bike >>>> has a 60cm top tube which is great for using swept back bars(albatross) >>>> with a "normal" length stem, 10cm. This very nearly puts drop bars out of >>>> reach for me on the 55cm which isn't a huge issue as I have other drop bar >>>> bikes that are shorter, smaller. >>>> >>>> I am concerned about spending 2000$ on a bike frame and getting the >>>> wrong size so this is top of mind at the moment. It's not like there are a >>>> ton of Rivs around I can test out, even in a big city- I guess at least I >>>> know what I like. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 11:49:15 AM UTC-8 >>>> der_amerikanische_freund wrote: >>>> >>>>> Interesting topic as I'm also seriously considering buying one of the >>>>> next Atlantises. I'm 6'1" and 88 PBH and, before I read this >>>>> conversation, >>>>> I was quite set on the 55, as I will mainly use it with knobby tires for >>>>> off-road riding so I want to have decent standover height if I need to >>>>> put >>>>> my feet on the ground when riding technical-ish trails. I do wonder now >>>>> if >>>>> this reasoning is valid or whether I'd be better off with a size 59. I >>>>> have >>>>> always been put off the 59 since I'd be outside their PBH range >>>>> recommendation (minimum 89.5cm). >>>>> >>>>> El domingo, 16 de febrero de 2025 a las 7:57:12 UTC, Mike in BK >>>>> escribió: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm 5'11", so longish inseam for my height and I don't have your >>>>>> reach. The Atlantis's long top tube only makes sense for me with >>>>>> sweptback >>>>>> bars. My dilemma isn't will I love the comfort of that, it's more will >>>>>> it >>>>>> feel good on spirited 2 hour road rides. Agreed about the Clem, and if >>>>>> standover wasn't an issue with the Atlantis I would grab a 59cm. Like >>>>>> most >>>>>> Riv lovers, I've never been on a bike that I could get my bars level >>>>>> with >>>>>> my saddle without a ton of quill stem extending from the too short head >>>>>> tube. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, February 15, 2025 at 8:15:51 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You mentioned that your PBH is 87.5, but not how tall you are. I >>>>>>> dont mean to dismiss Vince's expertise and opinion, bt I think that's >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> important part of the equation if you're looking for an "ideal" fit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My PBH is 87.0, and I'm 6'-2". So long torso, short legs, and >>>>>>> difficult to fit. If you're shorter and more normally proportioned >>>>>>> than >>>>>>> me, I probably wouldn't hesitate on the 55. Conversely, if you're a >>>>>>> similar height to me and have a 87.5 PBH, I also wouldn't worry about >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> 59 working. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a gen 1 Clem in 59, that's very close to the newest 59 >>>>>>> Atlantis in terms of fit, and I would NEVER opt for a smaller size. >>>>>>> Standover is tight, but comfort and ride quality trum everything. Even >>>>>>> now, the top tube is quite a bit on the short side - which would push >>>>>>> me >>>>>>> away from the 55. FWIW, I use large 2.3 tires, which further reduce >>>>>>> standover, too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Atlantis is funny. It was the bike that originally drew me to >>>>>>> Rivendell, but I have ALWAYS been berween sizes so, as much as I've >>>>>>> wanted >>>>>>> one, it's never quite worked out. (Actually, there was a 56cm 650b >>>>>>> briefly, which I almost bought, but decided it wasn't perfect.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been thinking about this next batch of Atlanti too, but think >>>>>>> the smart call for me is to wait until the next batch of 57 Appaloosa. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, February 15, 2025 at 10:54:28 AM UTC-7 Mike in BK wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The sirens are really luring me to want to grab an Atlantis this >>>>>>>> offering. This is irrational on my part for a few reasons. First being >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> the type of riding the Atlantis is made for is the least amount of my >>>>>>>> riding type here in Brooklyn. I'm mostly stretching out doing laps in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> park. But I aspire to "adventure" riding and can get out of the city >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> occasion. Second would be that the sizing gives me pause. I spoke with >>>>>>>> Vince at RBW and he was emphatic that 55cm was my size with my 87.5" >>>>>>>> PBH. I >>>>>>>> agree that the 59cm would be a real high standover and just feel >>>>>>>> unnecessarily big. But jumping all the way down to 55cm would have me >>>>>>>> showing a lot of post and the 61.8cm stack height will also have me >>>>>>>> extending the stem quite high. Lastly, and rather importantly, this >>>>>>>> will be >>>>>>>> my first new, not pre-owned, frameset in decades. To make it work I'll >>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>> to sell off some bikes and parts, which means I need to find a Riv >>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>> overlaps the majority of riding I do and the riding I aspire to do, >>>>>>>> namely >>>>>>>> moderate trail riding and gravel. The Sam would be perfect for all and >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> 57cm should fit like a glove. A 57cm Roadini would be a candidate as >>>>>>>> well, >>>>>>>> as its off-Roadini capabilities were recently discussed here. >>>>>>>> But....the >>>>>>>> Atlantis! 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