I’m delighted to report that the Clem sale that led me to post here a few 
days ago has ended successfully. The buyer (who IS a member of this group 
after all and who read the thread with some amusement as it all unfolded) 
and I reached a very fine conclusion. I’ve been paid, and the Clem is in 
the hands of my LBS being packed for shipment later this week. 

I’m happy to say that I really like the buyer and am very very pleased that 
it all went so smoothly and with such good faith.

Thanks to all of you for guiding me when I got lost in the weeds. :)

Liz in Cincinnati



On Thursday, November 28, 2024 at 7:45:31 AM UTC-5 meti...@gmail.com wrote:

> Joe, right…I mean, it’s one thing to say he THINKS he can get it shipped 
> for $100, and another thing to report that he’s FOUND a shipper to handle 
> it for $100…and without identifying the shipping company  (and only 
>  minutes of my giving him that responsibility)…this was one of those red 
> flags. 
>
> Having now paused, listened to my intuition, and having asked this group 
> for guidance, I’m prepared to break up with my buyer. Next step is to speak 
> with him. I’ll certainly keep you all posted about how it plays out, but no 
> matter what occurs, I’m REALLY grateful for your suggestions! 
>
> Happy Thanksgiving, all. 
>
> Liz
> On Thursday, November 28, 2024 at 1:41:48 AM UTC-5 Don Don wrote:
>
>> Liz, I suggest completing the transaction with the buyer without 
>> arranging shipping. Afterward, have the buyer contact the shop directly to 
>> handle shipping.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 27, 2024, at 9:03 PM, meti...@gmail.com <meti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I responded to a FB query for a blue, 52cm Clem Smith Jr. L  on the 
>> “Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE” page. I have that very bike, and  now 
>> that I have a Platypus, I’m willing to sell my Clem. 
>>
>>
>> The potential buyer and I have had a flurry of FB messenger exchanges 
>> about price, etc, today, and we’ve reached an agreeable price. Now comes 
>> the tricky part (for me): 
>>
>> My bike shop will disassemble the bike and box it. I know what they’ll 
>> charge for that.
>>
>>  But I don’t know the best way to have it shipped or how to figure the 
>> price for shipping…and if the buyer’s gonna pay the shipping, how does that 
>> work? Does he choose the carrier or do I?
>>
>> I’m cautious about all of this…I don’t know how the buyer and I can trust 
>> one another…there have been some ever-so-slight oddities in our message 
>> exchanges that make me a tad uneasy. I don’t care at all about the oddities 
>> IF the buyer pays the bill before I send him the bike—is that the customary 
>> order to these transactions?
>>
>> I’m pretty comfortable selling what I think are higher-ticket items when 
>> the transaction occurs face to face, but I’m not at all sure of the process 
>> online when it also includes third parties like shipping companies.
>>
>> So, I’m asking for direction from  this group, please (and the man I’m 
>> dealing with doesn’t seem to be a member here). 
>>
>> Liz in Cincinnati 
>> (And if this deal falls through let it be known that, I’m open to selling 
>> my pretty Clem) 
>>
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