He's not getting that bike shipped for $100; it's a long, heavy Rivendell 
and even the carbon wonders cost more than that to ship these days. What I 
do is tell the buyer how much shipping will be, period. If they don't want 
to pay it I sell my bike to somebody else. 
On Wednesday, November 27, 2024 at 6:40:55 PM UTC-8 meti...@gmail.com wrote:

> That makes SO MUCH SENSE, Dustin! I love my bike-shop family, and they 
> seem to love me back…we take good care of one another (they mostly deal in 
> high-end carbon fiber and titanium, so when my big ol’ steel Rivendell’s 
> roll in, they all laugh.)
>
> The buyer says he’s located a shipping outfit that’ll handle the shipping 
> for $100, which strikes me as questionable. He seemed to balk at paying 
> much for shipping, so I don’t know that I can encourage BikeFlights, but 
> if/when I speak with him by phone, I’ll strongly suggest that. 
>
>  
>
> On Wednesday, November 27, 2024 at 9:31:22 PM UTC-5 Dustin wrote:
>
>> Liz, 
>>
>> Check out BikeFlights.   https://www.bikeflights.com/
>>
>> You drop the bike off at a reputable bike shop and inform the buyer.  You 
>> can of course instruct the bike shop not to send the bike until they get 
>> approval from you, once you have the funds.  The buyer benefits by being 
>> able to call a shop and see if the bike is really there.  
>>
>> Then have the buyer arrange shipping via BikeFlights from the shop. This 
>> leaves it up to the buyer to invest as much as they are comfortable with in 
>> insurance or to deal with the consequences if they don’t. 
>>
>> The local bike shop is acting like the broker here. They get the business 
>> of packing and hopefully you come back for more. 
>>
>> I’d also consider a phone call with the buyer if you have any doubts 
>> about their validity. 
>>
>> Good luck with the sale, 
>> Dustin in VA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 27, 2024, at 9:12 PM, meti...@gmail.com <meti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> THANK YOU, ERIC! And Plain City is close enough to meet half way for a 
>> ride together! 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 27, 2024 at 9:06:40 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> My experience selling is that I (as the seller) choose the carrier and 
>>> get a shipping cost. The buyer pays that along with the bike price before I 
>>> send anything out. And use Paypal goods and services, not friends and 
>>> family--buyers can retract F&F money after it's sent.
>>>
>>> Pirate Ship is my current go-to for the best shipping rates.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> Plain City, OH
>>> who would be interested in that Clem if only it were a 59cm
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 9:03 PM meti...@gmail.com <meti...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I responded to a FB query for a blue, 52cm Clem Smith Jr. L  on the 
>>>> “Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE” page. I have that very bike, and  now 
>>>> that I have a Platypus, I’m willing to sell my Clem. 
>>>>
>>>> The potential buyer and I have had a flurry of FB messenger exchanges 
>>>> about price, etc, today, and we’ve reached an agreeable price. Now comes 
>>>> the tricky part (for me): 
>>>>
>>>> My bike shop will disassemble the bike and box it. I know what they’ll 
>>>> charge for that.
>>>>
>>>>  But I don’t know the best way to have it shipped or how to figure the 
>>>> price for shipping…and if the buyer’s gonna pay the shipping, how does 
>>>> that 
>>>> work? Does he choose the carrier or do I?
>>>>
>>>> I’m cautious about all of this…I don’t know how the buyer and I can 
>>>> trust one another…there have been some ever-so-slight oddities in our 
>>>> message exchanges that make me a tad uneasy. I don’t care at all about the 
>>>> oddities IF the buyer pays the bill before I send him the bike—is that the 
>>>> customary order to these transactions?
>>>>
>>>> I’m pretty comfortable selling what I think are higher-ticket items 
>>>> when the transaction occurs face to face, but I’m not at all sure of the 
>>>> process online when it also includes third parties like shipping companies.
>>>>
>>>> So, I’m asking for direction from  this group, please (and the man I’m 
>>>> dealing with doesn’t seem to be a member here). 
>>>>
>>>> Liz in Cincinnati 
>>>> (And if this deal falls through let it be known that, I’m open to 
>>>> selling my pretty Clem) 
>>>>
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