Have you ridden the AHH? The trail between the two bikes is with 2mm or so, so the "floppiness" should be indistinguishable between the two - Riv pays close attention to mechanical trail, increasing fork offset when the HTA is slackened. Good to know they're the same tubing! Kind of surprising. I know Grant would roll his eyes but I would love to see accurate frame weights for each, just out of curiosity.
On Tuesday 12 November 2024 at 12:41:47 UTC-8 isp...@gmail.com wrote: > I mostly appreciate the Roadini design (and am tempted), including the > steep-enough head angle that hopefully won’t flop too much if using a > randonneur-style front bag on a tombstone-style rack. Heartburn with the > head tube (thus stack) - really not high enough given Riv’s upright posture > philosophy. For those of us with long inseams/PBH, who must run a high > saddle, a modest stack like this forces us to extend the quill stem really > high (an aesthetic that leaves me cold). The Roadini’s stack isn’t really > any more than a mainstream gravel bike like my Jamis Renegade. It’s a funny > thing that after shrugging off Riv’s upright approach for 20+ years, I’m > finally warming up to it… but my road/rando bias (i.e. not into > ‘hillibike’) really limits which of their frames I can shop. > > Roman told me the AHH has the same tubing as Roadini. Homer’s stack is > 30mm higher so really encourages a tall cockpit, and that’s great. But not > a fan of its Atlantis-like floppy front end geometry (given my front rando > bag love). Not sure if there’s an AHH restock planned for late 2024 or any > time 2025(?). > > Homer stated suitable for 30 lb. luggage for credit card touring, but > neither AHH nor Roadini have mid-fork bosses to accommodate a front > lowrider rack (Riv’s standard fork boss is high, only intended for > Mark’s-type racks). Although light touring would only be my 2% use case, > being forced (by lack of proper mid-fork bosses) to do it mainly on a rear > rack is underwhelming. I’m a skinny lightweight who doesn’t need stout full > touring frame just to get mid-fork bosses. I feel like my full custom frame > days are behind me, but hesitating to pull trigger on Riv stock models. > > On Saturday, November 9, 2024 at 12:09:53 PM UTC-7 Oliver Moss wrote: > >> Is their intention to switch to the lugged version going forward? >> >> On Saturday, November 9, 2024 at 1:30:07 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: >> >>> Yeah I thought the Roadini was supposed to be the Clem-priced road bike. >>> Now Roadini, Homer and Gallop are all the same price. >>> >>> On Saturday, November 9, 2024 at 8:15:15 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote: >>> >>>> They look beautiful but it saddens me a bit to see them continue to >>>> move away from some more affordable frames. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, November 9, 2024 at 8:03:43 AM UTC-5 Ryan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Agreed Jock...glad they went back to lugged roadinis and I bet they'll >>>>> go fast. But for those who miss out, they are coming back in the >>>>> summer(August) in periwinkle and dark gold. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, November 8, 2024 at 6:53:26 PM UTC-6 John Dewey wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Good looking bike. Not many lugged production units these days. You >>>>>> can bet these will all be spoken-for in time measured by minutes and not >>>>>> hours. >>>>>> >>>>>> Better jump on now, think about it later. Just make sure you hit the >>>>>> proper size button—you’ll be glad you did. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck, and kudos to GP. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jock >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 3:40 PM Drew Fitchette <drewfi...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just jumped on the Riv site to order a few accessories and saw this >>>>>>> on the bike model section: Lugged Roadini >>>>>>> <https://www.rivbike.com/products/lugged-roadini> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like the look of them! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Drew >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/39c9e157-55e8-4495-960f-5bfda3e99265n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/39c9e157-55e8-4495-960f-5bfda3e99265n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/858094f8-167c-4a10-8a4d-611ef795d4edn%40googlegroups.com.
