"I think an internal real hub like a sturmey-archer 3 speed with a compact double crank and paul tensioner would be an incredible build"
That definitely would be a cool build. BL in EC On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 12:19:13 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote: > I absolutely fell in love with the early Karate Monkey. I have owned > several set up as fixed gears. I had purchased one with gears on it - and > it was absolutely the most annoying setup between the discs and derailer > and eventually stripped it down. I appreciated the idea though. I much > preferred my salsa el-mariachi with the bushnell eccentric bottom bracket > for versatilities sake. (Gears never stayed on my mountain bikes long.) It > was great because you could position the bb higher setting it up fixed for > reducing pedal strike... > > For a modern fixed gear specific I'd just get a Crust Lightning bolt SS or > Florida Man. > > BUT - I think the roaduno is super neat as it reminds me a lot of the RSF > bikes with stallard dropouts. I think an internal real hub like a > sturmey-archer 3 speed with a compact double crank and paul tensioner would > be an incredible build. I bought everything to build up a holdsworthy but > the toe overlap with fenders killed my motivation for the project. Price > aside the roaduno is the perfect candidate for some fun builds. > > > On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 12:01:35 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: > >> Eric >> >> That's interesting. I think you mean that as kind of a burn, because I'm >> pretty sure you disapprove of the RoadUno, which you are allowed to do. A >> few questions though: Do you have any guess about what fraction of people >> set up their 2003 Surly Karate Monkeys as single speeds? Do you think the >> 2003 Surly Karate Monkey was regarded as a single speed that incidentally >> had a hanger? Or do you think it was regarded as a mountain bike, with a >> single speed option? >> >> Bill Lindsay >> El Cerrito, CA >> >> On Wednesday, September 11, 2024 at 2:56:06 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote: >> >>> The dropouts might be proprietary, but they're functionally identical to >>> those on a 2003 Surly Karate Monkey... though I doubt Riv's have the Surly >>> name cast in. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 2:09 PM Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "Wouldn't verticals make the frame less apt for its apparent intended >>>> use as the single speed signified by the name?" >>>> >>>> This is fascinating. An individual implicitly shows an utter disregard >>>> for bicycles' apparent intended use by serially converting all possible >>>> platforms to fixies. That individual doubles-down on that disregard by >>>> brainstorming a way to build a Clem as a fixie. That same individual then >>>> makes a post explicitly stating that the only opinion about anything that >>>> matters is their own opinion. And then, with extreme earnestness, argues >>>> that the NAME of a bicycle model pigeonholes the intended use for that >>>> bicycle. >>>> >>>> Can you please list the other bicycle models in the history of Earth >>>> that encode their specific intent in their name? If that list is empty, >>>> then why is this the one bike in the history of Earth that is defined by >>>> your interpretation of its name? >>>> >>>> It has custom proprietary track ends that have a dedicated hanger for a >>>> tensioner. I call that the intent that the build include a tensioner. I >>>> am pretty sure it is the only production bike on earth with a dedicated >>>> single-purpose tensioner hanger. >>>> It is the only current production bike on earth (I'm pretty sure) with >>>> a solo left-side down tube shifter boss. I call that the intent that the >>>> build include a left side shifter. >>>> The complete comes with a triple crank set with two chain rings. I >>>> call that the intent that the build include two or three chain rings. >>>> The complete comes with a single freewheel (1, one, Uno). >>>> Grant's build is not a single speed. Grant celebrates and encourages >>>> using a cool old freebie derailleur as your tensioner. I call that the >>>> intent to run it as an Nx1, NxOne, NxUno. >>>> >>>> I think the primary intent of the RoadUno is a 2x1, and I think that is >>>> a genius format. If I had to impart meaning on the name RoadUno, I guess >>>> I >>>> would say it's in reference to the single freewheel in back and the 120mm >>>> O.L.D. I also think they had the name and the artwork and the headbadge >>>> before the bike design was finished in its evolution. That's why I call >>>> my >>>> RoadUno a RoDeuxNo. Maybe I'll make decal mods on mine. >>>> >>>> I think people who want a fixie with a Rivendell head badge on it can >>>> absolutely get that by building their RoadUno as a fixie. If that's what >>>> they decide to do, I hope they love it. I think people who want a single >>>> speed A Homer Hilsen can absolutely get that by building up their RoadUno >>>> as a single speed. If that's what they do, I hope they love it. I think >>>> the clear PRIMARY intent of the RoadUno is a 2x1, and if Riv had gone >>>> ALL-IN on that primary intent, they would have gone with vertical >>>> dropouts. I like the track ends. I like how they look, and I like that >>>> they are proprietary. I like that they look like a monster. I like the >>>> rack eyelet they present. I have a rear-hub workaround that will achieve >>>> the wheel removal ease of vertical dropouts, and will also enable a >>>> perfect >>>> fender treatment, which is the other benefit of vertical dropouts. I >>>> think >>>> the track ends earn an ALTERNATIVE build option for those who don't want >>>> to >>>> go with the primary intent of the bike. I get it that some people hate >>>> the >>>> look of a tensioner, or just dislike the existence of a tensioner. I'm >>>> sure somebody is going to take their dremel tool to the hanger on their >>>> RoadUno, which they have every right to do. >>>> >>>> Bill Lindsay >>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>> On Wednesday, September 11, 2024 at 8:14:21 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think about only 1 cyclist when I insist that he ride a Rivendell >>>>> fixed instead of single speed, and that 1 is me; or rather, I. That 1 is >>>>> I, >>>>> if you see what I (1) mean. >>>>> >>>>> I don't care if someone rides a Roaduno fixed or free or multispeed; >>>>> my question bears on facts and not morals. But if I got one, I'd >>>>> certainly >>>>> set it up fixed, or perhaps fixed/free. >>>>> >>>>> Wouldn't verticals make the frame less apt for its apparent intended >>>>> use as the single speed signified by the name? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 11:14 PM Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ... What are the reasons why you think any individual cyclist should >>>>>> or would prefer riding fixed on a RoadUno over riding a single speed >>>>>> with a >>>>>> freewheel? I've got like 7 or 8 reasons why I would never set up my new >>>>>> RoadUno as a fixie*. Do you have any reasons why I would or should set >>>>>> up >>>>>> my new RoadUno as a fixie? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> *In fact, I'm so convinced in my thinking, that my mind is made up >>>>>> that the RoadUno should have come with vertical dropouts. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/43108c02-30c9-4339-81a9-c8eab8737e32n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/43108c02-30c9-4339-81a9-c8eab8737e32n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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