Must... not... reply...

You have to know your AUDIENCE to make a proper joke.

Birders and what-have-yous have zero cultural relevance. There are
very few stereotypes about bird-watchers. No one would know if the
comparison was apt or not, so they wouldn't know if it was funny. If
BSNYC likened randonneurs to birders... birders would actually become
culturally relevant.

<snip own post>

I have hypertrophied sense of humor. I am a nerd.
It's obvious that BSNYC reads the same (and more!) bike forums that I
do, for the past dozen years or so. I think you need a grounding in
1990s rec.bicycles.tech to even know that Jobst Brandt is "the uber-
curmudgeon."

And before Jim moves Patrick and me to separate seats, I'm going to go
post a question about CR720s on a Quickbeam that maybe some of you can
answer.

 Philip

JoelMatthews wrote:
> > Is it possible, do you think, that he doesn't understand either
> > randonneuring or Star Trek?
>
> Well, you have to know your subject if you are going to make a proper
> joke.
>
> On Jun 8, 5:26 pm, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 14:35 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > > > Oh, come now! My antennae quiver with delight when BSNYC (let us bow our
> > > > heads in wonderment and admiration .... pause ... OK, back to regular
> > > > garrulousness) pokes fun at something I like. He is just funny. GD 
> > > > vulgar,
> > > > too, but funny.
> >
> > > No so much the poking fun, but the comparison.
> >
> > > Even an entry level understanding of cosmology is enough to show Star
> > > Trek is an absurd impossible fantasy (eg., Paul Davies,'The Eerie
> > > Silence') .  On the other hand, a Rando style bike is arguably as good
> > > a way to credit card tour as any.
> >
> > > If BSNYC wanted to compare Randos to nerds, he should have used nerds
> > > with nerding after something outside of the realm of fantasy, such as
> > > amateur astronomers or birders.  Even trainspotters would have made
> > > more sense.
> >
> > Is it possible, do you think, that he doesn't understand either
> > randonneuring or Star Trek?  
> >
> > >From what I can see, there isn't anything even remotely "retro-grouch"
> >
> > about randonneurs.  They're all about getting the job done.  Look at the
> > high-tech lighting systems if you have any doubt of it.  If somebody
> > confuses the presence of fenders with nostalgia for the past or with a
> > rejection of modern values, whatever they are, he mustn't ride long
> > distances in the rain.

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