The updated geometry probably isn't noted on the current website because it's actually been in place for a few years--since 2018 at least, since the 2018 print catalog <https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/2018_Rivendell_Frame_Catalog.pdf?18216627747902060761> shows the new geometry. The change to the top tube slope isn't the only change, the biggest other change being longer chainstays, especially the larger sizes. It's part of a general revamp of Rivendell's geometries across the board--the same thing happened with the Atlantis, which along with the Homer is pretty much the only "legacy" model they still make, albeit with a lot of changes.
I, for one, see the reasoning behind the changes (better stability and weight distribution, especially when sitting upright), and would encourage you to give the new geometry a try. At the same time, I own bikes with both the "new" Riv geometry (Clem Smith Jr) and the "classic" Riv geometry (Rambouillet), and can understand that if you were expecting the latter and got the former, how that would be a bit shocking. -Jeremy Till Sacramento, CA On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:35:13 AM UTC-8 J. W. wrote: > > Hi everyone, this is my first post to this forum. After years of coveting > a Riv, I ordered a Homer and my dealer expects delivery this spring. As I > was just checking geometry to make sure I have a stem of the right length > ready for my reach, I noticed that the 2021 model has a considerably > steeper slope to the top tube (looks like almost 12 degrees, compared to 6, > if bikeinsights has it right). I'm a bit shocked, as I hadn't realised > there would be such a difference, and I hadn't read anything about any big > changes (I know they posted the measurements, and it's on me for not doing > due diligence, but I would have thought such a big change would have > warranted mention on the Riv site, with maybe their thinking on why, and > perhaps some comparison photos). All my visual reference for what I had to > look forward to is now out of date and of course I'm second-guessing > myself, maybe I should have ordered a Sam instead -- I'm mostly a > one-bike-at-a-time guy and my current bike, which I've ridden for a long > time, has a horizontal tube, and I felt 6 degrees was already a big step > for me. But, by looking at and admiring a lot of people's builds I came to > see the slight slope as a good thing and I embraced my 6-degree-slopey > future, step boldly into the future etc. > > Looking at the current photos on the Riv site, the Homer and the Sam have > exactly the same top-tube slope (if you compare the pictures taken in > profile they have models that line up perfectly -- switching back and forth > between tabs, once I got them lined up, shows that they are close to > identical), and they say there that the photos represent the 2021 geometry. > So what's going on? If the stack has been increased by as much as the > dimensions in the chart say, there's no way that those photos represent the > 2021 geometry accurately. I don't know what to do now! > > What do you think? > > Jon > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/20994bb2-5daa-4329-a33f-311f30bfea02n%40googlegroups.com.
