Hi everyone, this is my first post to this forum. After years of coveting a 
Riv, I ordered a Homer and my dealer expects delivery this spring. As I was 
just checking geometry to make sure I have a stem of the right length ready 
for my reach, I noticed that the 2021 model has a considerably steeper 
slope to the top tube (looks like almost 12 degrees, compared to 6, if 
bikeinsights has it right). I'm a bit shocked, as I hadn't realised there 
would be such a difference, and I hadn't read anything about any big 
changes (I know they posted the measurements, and it's on me for not doing 
due diligence, but I would have thought such a big change would have 
warranted mention on the Riv site, with maybe their thinking on why, and 
perhaps some comparison photos). All my visual reference for what I had to 
look forward to is now out of date and of course I'm second-guessing 
myself, maybe I should have ordered a Sam instead -- I'm mostly a 
one-bike-at-a-time guy and my current bike, which I've ridden for a long 
time, has a horizontal tube, and I felt 6 degrees was already a big step 
for me. But, by looking at and admiring a lot of people's builds I came to 
see the slight slope as a good thing and I embraced my 6-degree-slopey 
future, step boldly into the future etc.

Looking at the current photos on the Riv site, the Homer and the Sam have 
exactly the same top-tube slope (if you compare the pictures taken in 
profile they have models that line up perfectly -- switching back and forth 
between tabs, once I got them lined up, shows that they are close to 
identical), and they say there that the photos represent the 2021 geometry. 
So what's going on? If the stack has been increased by as much as the 
dimensions in the chart say, there's no way that those photos represent the 
2021 geometry accurately. I don't know what to do now! 

What do you think? 

Jon

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