Different riders do different things to wheels, regardless of their weight, 
cargo loads and primary terrain. You could construct a perfectly adequate 
or overbuilt wheel set for some and they'd consume them in short order 
while others seem to glide through years before wear is enough to consider 
replacement.. 

 I remember pondering why certain customers should have a wheel build card 
good for a free tenth build after nine stamps. A light rider who rides like 
their wheels are the face of a hammer can eat a wheel set on road or off in 
no time but a rider who distributes both output and input energies 
carefully can baby a set of wheels for a very long time. There will always 
be that one time event that kills a wheel in a single strike. 

Unfortunately we all have to learn where we are on that spectrum by going 
too heavy or too light at some time. Going a bit strong at first may result 
in dreams of lighter wheels releasing from the bonds of physics but going 
light can leave you calling for a ride or worse.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh 

On Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 12:39:05 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I had to laugh at this. I'm not a heavyweight but I do weigh between 170 
> and 175 and often carry rear loads, but I've been using 19 mm (outside) 370 
> gram 559 rims both on and off road for decades (still have a stash: Sun 
> M14A) in 32 rear and 32 or 28 front; wheels never went out of true, and 
> only times I broke spokes was twice using Revolutions with aluminum nipples 
> to carry 35 lb rear loads on 22 mm tires; brass nipples and 14/15 gauge 
> fixed that. (I never got pinch flats either). I've used the same wheels off 
> road with some violence, with no problems. My 29er wheels are 32 spoke; no 
> out-of-true; and I never had out-of-true problems with lightish 622 road 
> rims on- or off-road. (Pressure is another puzzle. I put 90/80 in 23s, 
> 50-45 in 28s, 35-30 in 40s, and 18 to 21 in 60s.)
>
> OTOH, one of the nicest feeling wheelsets I ever rode was a many-owner 
> pair built around old 40 hole Campy Record hubs on a 1960s Paramount track 
> bike belonging to my brother (he was partly serious). Like butter and 
> perpetual motion.
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 8:21 AM Nathan F <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ... Wheels are a real sticking point for me because the general advice on 
>> here can be quite dated. When Riv-built Rivs come into the shop I work, 
>> they are frequently the most overbuilt bikes I've ever seen. We're talking 
>> a 100lb woman riding 36H touring wheels for riding in the city when they 
>> could easily, and safely, be on 24H cyclocross race wheels. Onetime someone 
>> had a bike that, again, they were just riding in the city (no loaded 
>> touring) with a 42H rear wheel. It's utter madness. Once you add in the 
>> propensity for Riv owners to ride terrible tires--I've been so happy to see 
>> Riv overhaul their tire program--these bikes end up not being as fun to 
>> ride as they should be.
>>
>>
> -- 
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>

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