I believe the A23s have not been available in 650b for a while now, could be wrong. I have a pair waiting, but the skinny brake track is a negative for me. Kind of dainty looking for a Sam anyway. Cliffhangers, on the other hand, too beefy, also not classic. Pacenti is a nice choice, now that they've fixed the cracking issues with the first generation rims. They will save you a quarter pound over Altas; not much in the scheme of things. It would be like going to McDonald's and buying two quarter pounders and putting one in your basket and one on your rack. And, unless you ride like PM, the Pacenti might limit you a bit.
The Atlas a decade ago (or whenever it was that it came out) was in a smaller field (though the rim brake offerings are shrinking again) and a great versatile rim to build into a classic-looking, highly useful, do-it -all except win races wheel, a perfect match for most Rivendell models. In my opinion it still is. No question I would choose the Pacenti for a L'Avecaise or a Weigle or maybe even the upcoming Gallup or something of that ilk. For a Sam build I would go Atlas 9 times out of ten. Then again, I thought the stock Alex rims that come with the completes were just fine, so I guess I'm not very discriminating. On Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 1:30:07 PM UTC-5, Nathan F wrote: > > I've used the same wheels off road with some violence >> > > Ha! What a great description. Regarding the Clipper, supposedly it is the > same mold as the Sugino, so they should be identical. > > The Atlas and the A23 are the same price, except a set of A23s are 3/4 lb > lighter. If you want classic looks get the Pacenti Brevet which is > basically the same weight as the A23. Dyads or cliffhangers are more > appropriate if they'll be doing heavy duty (or off-road) touring. I just > really don't see the appeal of the Atlas, beyond that Riv sung it's praises > over a decade ago. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/877ea87c-0380-4a82-a55a-9009934f9229o%40googlegroups.com.
