I had to laugh at this. I'm not a heavyweight but I do weigh between 170
and 175 and often carry rear loads, but I've been using 19 mm (outside) 370
gram 559 rims both on and off road for decades (still have a stash: Sun
M14A) in 32 rear and 32 or 28 front; wheels never went out of true, and
only times I broke spokes was twice using Revolutions with aluminum nipples
to carry 35 lb rear loads on 22 mm tires; brass nipples and 14/15 gauge
fixed that. (I never got pinch flats either). I've used the same wheels off
road with some violence, with no problems. My 29er wheels are 32 spoke; no
out-of-true; and I never had out-of-true problems with lightish 622 road
rims on- or off-road. (Pressure is another puzzle. I put 90/80 in 23s,
50-45 in 28s, 35-30 in 40s, and 18 to 21 in 60s.)

OTOH, one of the nicest feeling wheelsets I ever rode was a many-owner pair
built around old 40 hole Campy Record hubs on a 1960s Paramount track bike
belonging to my brother (he was partly serious). Like butter and perpetual
motion.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 8:21 AM Nathan F <[email protected]> wrote:

> ... Wheels are a real sticking point for me because the general advice on
> here can be quite dated. When Riv-built Rivs come into the shop I work,
> they are frequently the most overbuilt bikes I've ever seen. We're talking
> a 100lb woman riding 36H touring wheels for riding in the city when they
> could easily, and safely, be on 24H cyclocross race wheels. Onetime someone
> had a bike that, again, they were just riding in the city (no loaded
> touring) with a 42H rear wheel. It's utter madness. Once you add in the
> propensity for Riv owners to ride terrible tires--I've been so happy to see
> Riv overhaul their tire program--these bikes end up not being as fun to
> ride as they should be.
>
>
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Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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