I have a 56cm SH with 720 Tektros: with the Tektro forkcrown-mounted
cable stop, no problems. Switched to a headset-mounted stop (to
install Nitto front rack and fenders), squeal (but no shudder),
regardless of toe-in settings with stock pads. Switched to VO squeal-
free pads, no problems, regardless of toe-in position.

I highly recommend the forkcrown-mounted cable hanger, if your setup
can accommodate it (if you have a Nitto mini front and a fender that
mounts to the rack bolt with an L-bracket, adding the cable hanger
doesn't work on my Sam because the Nitto bolt (integral to the rack)
is just a bit too short. Without the fender, I could just make it
work, but with the fender, no dice). See 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4426738206/
for the cable forkcrown-mounted hanger.

Gernot


On Apr 18, 12:38 am, rperks <perks....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Second what he said, and go through the standards: Clean the rims with
> alchohol, some even sand them lightly.  If that does not do it try
> lightly sanding or filing the pads to clean them as well.  Next stop
> is Pauls or V-Brakes.  I went through this with my Cross-check, but
> the judder was at all speeds, as set of mini-v brakes brought it
> almost to a omplete stop, but I was so tired of fiddling with it I
> sold the bike and bought the Rawland with discs.  The stud slop is
> only one weak link in the system, and I believe it helps to magnify
> every other weak spot in the system.
>
> The other possibility is that with the wide profile and High cable
> they may be too powerful.  Sounds hard to swallow, but I can make the
> fork hop on the rawland with discs.  Watch the front wheel closely
> when you are doing this and see if it is spinning in a stop start kind
> of a thing or locked up and hopping along like a pogo stick.
>
> Rob
>
> On Apr 17, 10:22 am, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > on 4/17/10 9:51 AM, MikeC at mecinib...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
> > > I find it strange that some SH owners have this issue while others
> > > have not had an issue. My pads were installed flush, but they are
> > > koolstop MTB pads with the the designed to provide tow-in
> > > automatically. I get no squeal just the low-speed shudder.  I will
> > > look into pad angle.
>
> > Pad angle will definitely cause that issue. I've had that happen with and
> > without accompanying squawking. The Kool Stops also tend to bite a newer rim
> > a lot better than most pads. New pads + New rims = shudder, IME.
>
> > I've never been able to run the KS pads flush. Always put a touch o' toe-in
> > on them.
>
> > I'd also just double-check that the housing endcap is not moving in the
> > hanger, and that there's no gap when the housing runs into the brake lever
> > itself.
>
> > > I am using the max straddle cable height allowed by the stock cable
> > > that came with the CR720's. I will try increasing the spring tension.
>
> > Photo anywhere?
>
> > - J
>
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