Well, I'm definitely heavy enough where the second top tube on my Sam Hillborne should make a difference. Does it? I dunno. But after this many years am used to it. Always felt it was as much marketing to be different than Surly, All City and some other brands. It does ride well and has been my only bike for a bit. At least until my Clem shows up.
My only complaint with this bike is the brakes. If I had known they were going to cantilever frames might have waited. Even with good pads set up well, not overly happy with the side pulls. But that's my preference, not a slam against the design. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/53cb35b8-c831-4a94-94a7-89cfd94537abo%40googlegroups.com.