Well, I'm definitely heavy enough where the second top tube on my Sam Hillborne 
should make a difference. Does it? I dunno. But after this many years am used 
to it. Always felt it was as much marketing to be different than Surly, All 
City and some other brands. It does ride well and has been my only bike for a 
bit. At least until my Clem shows up. 

My only complaint with this bike is the brakes. If I had known they were going 
to cantilever frames might have waited. Even with good pads set up well, not 
overly happy with the side pulls. But that's my preference, not a slam against 
the design. 


Eric Platt 
St. Paul, MN

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