FWIW, Jan Heine, who certainly knows tires (but not goatheads!!) prefers tubes. I don't know that he's right in saying that the "sloshing" of sealant will slow the wheel; not in my experience; but sealant certainly will add as much weight as a tube. I just patched a tube with sealant (yup, ya can't avoid patches even with sealant, just slow them way down) and the tube, which weighed 60 grams new is 123 grams with 1 or 1.5 fl oz of OS regular (I use half the amounts recommended; 2 fl oz in 700C X 60s, 1 fl oz in 28s). Note again that I've had to patch more tubes this past year or so after switching to the OS edurance formula; have just started back -- for tubes -- with the regular, full-fat formula.
That said, 2 more things: 1. Yes, sealant is a messy pain in the ass, when things go wrong. Far less of a pain than fixing flats every 20 miles, and far less of a pain of riding 900 gram Big Apples* with 250 gram tubes instead of 450 gram Big Ones and 2 fl oz of sealant. 2. In my limited experience, tubeless tires seem to roll with less resistance than the same tires with tubes, the "sloshing" of sealant notwithstanding. Me, if I could ride paper-light tires with paper-light tubes, that's what I'd choose, like Jan. But again, goatheads. And I agree; if you don't like one, choose the other. But each has its advantages and each has its drawbacks; neither is miraculous. * Big Apples (I used the "Lite" 800 gram model) were *almost* thorn proof on dirt, and pretty resistant on pavement, but still more flats than Big Ones with OS, and the BOs ride like fast racing tires on pavement, and I am not exaggerating (tho' the BAs weren't bad for such heavy tires). Patrick Moore, who plans before he dies to try tubulars (on the Libertas) with Orange Seal, in ABQ, NM On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:27 AM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I didn't read this as a contentious post at all, but as rather similar to > my own ruminations puzzling out if/why to go tubeless. For me the goop > thing is huge in the field. For others, no biggie. Now, if goat heads were > a bigger issue for me? That would change the result of the equation, as > goop is preferable to multiple flats/day. Grin. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5581b6dc-4bde-4f4f-b2eb-d3cce2e16f16%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5581b6dc-4bde-4f4f-b2eb-d3cce2e16f16%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgs-WoE%2BZBftRdA17sCu7kByEt-TP5eSfV9vwOREuxiAJg%40mail.gmail.com.
