I have no doubt that Clems, etc, ride great and that riders adapt to 
whatever bike they have, and so on. 

Apologies if this has been linked already, but, in case anyone missed it, 
here's Grant's post about longer chain stays, schooners, bumps, 
skyscrapers: 
https://www.rivbike.com/pages/why-the-long-stays-chainstay-length

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